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09-06-2016 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
aa and top pair plus are easy value bets otr
It doesn't matter whether they are or not, only whether some random reg actually bets them. I'm thinking most of them don't, at least not for these sizings, and their range is polarised to bluffs and hands we lose to.
09-07-2016 , 05:53 AM
Valuebetting AA for 60% pot on this runout seems incredibly thin, I heavily doubt villain bets one pair hands OTR.
09-07-2016 , 11:02 AM
I think I sigh fold here, even vs aggro player. There are no signs of any weakness in the way villain played this hand and there are just too many hands that beat us OTR, it's very hard to put a range on this hand (even by the river) seeing as villain was playing uncapped the entire way. Any combination of sets, flushes, better two pairs. I think we're kind of lost here and if that's the case I lean more towards folding than making the ambitious call.
09-08-2016 , 02:10 AM
Big bets = Big hands

River = Big bet

Case solved.
09-08-2016 , 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanted_Doni
Big bets = Big hands

River = Big bet

Case solved.
glad people in the poker community are still thinking like this
09-08-2016 , 01:12 PM
+1
09-08-2016 , 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolposting2016
glad people in the poker community are still thinking like this
I am glad that mtt players are still thinking in terms of "dynamics", "what's your image", "I 3betted him twice so he mad", "we have two pair we can't let him to exploit us" basing their experience on 15 live tournaments they played last year.
09-08-2016 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad1Lee
I am glad that mtt players are still thinking in terms of "dynamics", "what's your image", "I 3betted him twice so he mad", "we have two pair we can't let him to exploit us" basing their experience on 15 live tournaments they played last year.
your not talking about me obv
09-08-2016 , 05:48 PM
seems like a trivial fold otf
09-08-2016 , 06:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wowsooooted
seems like a trivial fold otf
09-08-2016 , 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wowsooooted
seems like a trivial call otf
fyp
09-09-2016 , 07:36 AM
He's taken a pretty straightforward valuetown line since he's basically giving you infinite odds to call and you're underrepped and checked the river to him when the flush got there. I like c/c turn and c/c river with his sizing.
09-14-2016 , 06:18 PM
I live by a hard and fast rule that if I hit two pair while playing connectors, they have a straight. I likely would have bet 150 or so on the turn to find out for sure but if he calls that and then bets the river, I'm out. As played, I fold most of the time. You did refer to him as "extremely aggressive" which does change things a little. I probably still fold, we don't even have top two, but I wouldn't hate a call based on your read of the opponent.
09-15-2016 , 04:10 AM
i think i am bet folding river to smth like 170-270k (also i think i will lead turn 120-130k because i think it will be checked behind a lot and we need to kinda protect our EQ and there are a lot of rivers that we will hate our life on, imo we should have more 99/TT/QTs/T9s/KJs/87s combos that he can have there so leading turn for vlaue is reasonable, and if i lead turn i bet almost all rivers)

its really really ugly river that is hitting you range and also hitting his barreling range (87s got there on flop, flush got there) and he need to have total air and barel 3 times for you to beat his range

c/r turn is interesting option imo we have like 750k behind when he bet 148k on turn (i dont like c/r all in tbh cos we might be drawing dead vs smth like QQ)
09-15-2016 , 04:33 AM
No one w/ half brain vbets AA/KK otr, so fold.
IŽll rather x/r flop than call (guess flat is standard), and put maximum pressure on his TP, overpairs, SD etc. w/ bombing most turns (spades, 8x,7x and so on), cuz we have all 99 and 66 and he doesnŽt, and we do have that nice 9x blocker

Last edited by OutPlayU27; 09-15-2016 at 04:39 AM. Reason: if you wanna be balanced and **** :) imo

      
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