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04-12-2015 , 04:36 PM
    WPN, 40/80 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #35926361

    MP3: 13,673 (170.9 bb)
    CO: 11,240 (140.5 bb)
    BTN: 10,691 (133.6 bb)
    SB: 4,253 (53.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): 8,830 (110.4 bb)
    UTG+1: 11,018 (137.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 8,670 (108.4 bb)
    MP1: 11,177 (139.7 bb)
    MP2: 9,635 (120.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K A
    UTG+1 raises to 160, UTG+2 raises to 525, 6 folds, Hero calls 445, UTG+1 calls 365

    Flop: (1,615) 7 4 A (3 players)
    Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets 808, Hero raises to 2,475, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 5,280, Hero raises to 8,305 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls 2,865 and is all-in

    Turn: (17,905) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (17,905) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    04-12-2015 , 05:10 PM
    I think I like folding pre.

    Would probably prefer taking a c/c line post. Leading river if turn checks through. Obv raising can lead to good things if he goes ham or just has AT+ and thinks you're FOS or on flush draw since you're repping pretty narrow. If he had AJcc or the one combo of AA gg ul. (Guess he could have 77 or A4s/A7s too if his ep 3b range is whack.)
    04-12-2015 , 07:31 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheBearcat
    I think I like folding pre.

    Would probably prefer taking a c/c line post. Leading river if turn checks through. Obv raising can lead to good things if he goes ham or just has AT+ and thinks you're FOS or on flush draw since you're repping pretty narrow. If he had AJcc or the one combo of AA gg ul. (Guess he could have 77 or A4s/A7s too if his ep 3b range is whack.)
    I think it is an interesting spot to consider folding preflop as well. Even though we are 100 bb deep it's going to be difficult not to lose a ton of our stack when we flop A or K and are behind. To contrast, when we win we probably don't win a lot from pp's below the A or K. So by folding we are preserving our stack and not allowing us to go broke when opponent(s) have AA/KK. If it's a mistake to fold AK pre here, it's certainly not a big one imo
    04-12-2015 , 08:26 PM
    preflop is close, would probably fold even if its weak

    call the flop bet, raising is pretty bad
    04-12-2015 , 09:06 PM
    4b/f pre or fold

    just c/c flop
    04-13-2015 , 04:46 PM
    Unless utg+2 is on mega tilt, good luck! Would be nice to know uTG+2's 3B and PR to see if folding pre is right. 110BB getting all in on the flop is usually bad news with TPTK except against short stack or spewing duuuur.

    Agree c/c on flop. Pre fold or call as played. I don't like 4B/F pre as you lose a lot of small ball post flop action.

    Last edited by bernsten69; 04-13-2015 at 04:55 PM.
    04-13-2015 , 11:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkratitsbest
    4b/f pre or fold

    just c/c flop
    this^

    Flatting pre is not the end of the world, but getting it in here is ******ed. Check/call all the way, fold to three barrels on some runouts.
    04-18-2015 , 08:46 AM
    A lot of information is missing in the hand such as dynamics between Utg and utg+1 along with their overall images. I would also like to know your image as well.
    After considering that you can expect a better answer. Everyone who said fold pre without that information aren't giving good advice. The flop comes out super drawy and I would definitely get it in on the flip because you can rep a wide range. Flop is well plays. Preflop is dependant on the image of yourself and Utg +1
    04-18-2015 , 10:30 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boxcheck
    because you can rep a wide range
    How can we rep a wide range when we cold call a 3b in the BB? Our range is not wide in this position.
    04-20-2015 , 10:30 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by boxcheck
    The flop comes out super drawy and I would definitely get it in on the flip because you can rep a wide range. Flop is well plays.
    What kind of flip are you talking about? His getting it in range would be huge draws + two pairs combos + top set + maybe AK. How is that a flip? How are we ever repping a wide range after preflop action?
    04-22-2015 , 09:21 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pkratitsbest
    4b/f pre or fold

    just c/c flop
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mad1Lee
    this^

    Flatting pre is not the end of the world, but getting it in here is ******ed. Check/call all the way, fold to three barrels on some runouts.
    +2
    04-24-2015 , 11:39 AM
    Thoughts on 0% 4b as utg here. I'd rather flat w entire range we want to continue with.
    04-27-2015 , 10:11 AM
    I misspelled the word flop when I wrote "flip". Is OP has been playing LAG or raising a calling a lot of hands PF then we can rep a wide range. If he's been playing standard TAG his hand is pretty much face up. Like I said it all depends on images.

          
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