wtf at his river line? should i raise turn? whats best reraise size on river. can i ever call here? eff this spot
Poker Stars $500+$30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+1: t15075 M = 201
UTG+2: t14850 M = 198
MP1: t15250 M = 203.33
MP2: t15025 M = 200.33
CO: t14925 M = 199
Hero (BTN): t14925 M = 199
SB: t15175 M = 202.33
BB: t15000 M = 200
UTG: t14775 M = 197

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN with 6 7
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t150, MP1 calls t150, 2 folds, Hero calls t150, 1 fold, BB calls t100

Flop: (t625) 7 7 J (4 players)
BB bets t450, UTG+2 calls t450, MP1 folds, Hero calls t450

Turn: (t1975) 9 (3 players)
BB bets t1350, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls t1350

River: (t4675) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero raises to t4750, BB raises to t13050 all in

wow.

no don't raise turn
i like 3900
pls don't call

i think you played it fine

wtf @ river. so messed up

how about raising flop?

Raising flop/turn is suicide this deep.

i think u should raise the flop. it balances your range well with draws that you'd be raising and i think makes the hand easier to play overall.

+1; I don't think shove can ever be a bluff unless he was specifically on planet Zultron, bet small to induce a bluff, but had **** and couldn't just call.

So should I flat the flop if I'd be raising few or no draws because villain is a mediocre reg who donked a 4-way flop 300 BB deep and his range is probably incredibly strong? I'd rather fold the flop than raise.

i got a headache reading this HH lol

such an odd river play. this deep and this early i think flatting the river is your best option unless for some reason you are not wanting a showdown.

as for some other options i heard :

flop: if we werent 200bbs deep then yes a flop raise is in order but in this case i think a flat is just fine

turn: why are we raising the turn again? we either have him crushed or he has us crushed barring similar 7 combos. if we raise how much are we raising to? if checked to on the river what are we betting and what are we doing when c/r?

river:again i just flat here unless you clearly believe you are raising for value this deep

Yeah I agree with this. Doesn't really have to do with it being early, has more to do with the fact that I don't think villain is calling this pot-sized raise with a jack and he can have better some % of the time. It seems horrible for him to bet 300 with a boat but when regs take completely bizarre lines my experience is they have the nuts more often than you'd think. Mostly the reason I'd play this hand nitty is that I think his flop donk is really strong.

I think you played it fine. Just calling the river might actually be right, no way in hell I would have done it at the time. I also think raising the flop is OK, once you call the flop definitely call the turn IMO.

seriously the best play

also...it's a flat call/strong lead from the BB i'm pretty sure he also has a 7 at this point and we beat just about nothing so fold looks good on river and it sux but it may be just a call anyway...what's worse hand is he supposed to have that calls a raise?

Anyone else think he was trying to bet 3000 on the river?

My very first thought.

This. If its actually 3000, would you raise?

todd, let's assume he really bet 3,000 instead of 300. are you just calling? if so, then i think that's the right play, because i really don't think (although i could be wrong) this is some sicko underbet to induce a big bluff on OP's part. i really think he misclicked here 99% of the time.

If he bets 3k on the river it's prob a fold.

I don't think you can fold, definitely not raising though.

I would raise the flop. If he checked the turn, I would open again to get a fold or a free card on the river.

call river.

flop raise or turn raise = ******ed.

I think this is actually the scariest part of hand. I think raising flop or turn is pretty bad also

Also I agree the river bet looks like a mis-click of 3K and I assume if he makes it 3K than Lipo just calls...

Anyone folding the river to 3K is way better than I am

we need results op.
i actually dreamt about this hand when i fell asleep in class today true story... and i wasnt even playing this tourney.

yea raising the flop is suicide

devo, you're really raising draws on this flop?