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3 bet pot QQ spot in Tilt 100/r/a 3 bet pot QQ spot in Tilt 100/r/a

12-28-2009 , 10:45 PM
Haven't played any big pots with villain. I haven't been doing any out of line 3 betting that would make me think his range is anything otuside of the usual monsters here.

You giving up on turn or calling and evaluating on river?


Full Tilt Poker $33,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t100/t200 Blinds - 8 players
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BTN: t12830 M = 42.77
SB: t20824 M = 69.41
BB: t5495 M = 18.32
UTG: t6415 M = 21.38
UTG+1: t3892 M = 12.97
MP1: t6261 M = 20.87
Hero (MP2): t10681 M = 35.60
CO: t7277 M = 24.26

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is MP2 with Q Q
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t575, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1625, 2 folds, SB calls t1525, 1 fold, UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 calls t1050

Flop: (t5075) K 8 T (3 players)
SB bets t800, UTG+1 requests TIME, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t800

Turn: (t6675) 7 (2 players)
SB bets t1600, Hero...
12-28-2009 , 10:53 PM
I fold turn and feel pretty good about it
12-28-2009 , 10:55 PM
If I had to guess, id say the SB is german and has K8o exactly.

Its such a drawy board though that im tempted to just jam cos f him. That may be the booze talking though.

Other than that if you call turn you have have to call any non club/A river really.
12-28-2009 , 11:59 PM
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
12-29-2009 , 12:03 AM
i think i fold turn but don't feel good about.

And shoving the turn seems just realllly bad.

more reads would obv help,
12-29-2009 , 12:37 AM
if he has been real tight and nitty id prob just fold on turn
otherwise, its weird but i call and reeval river
12-29-2009 , 01:19 AM
Fold turn, and I don't think it's all that close after he cold called your 3 bet oop pre.
12-29-2009 , 02:29 AM
gross.. his sizing is so bad... id probably peel another one and re-eval.. but folding is definetly fine... and shoving turn is really bad...
12-29-2009 , 04:30 AM
Id raise flop this gay-donk seems to be weak. As played Id fold turn cause calling turn means calling river if the dros missed imo.
12-29-2009 , 04:36 AM
foldddd
12-29-2009 , 09:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
this could work. creative also

As played: these microbets are so annoying you want to punish them but often it is better to restrain yourself and fold. I fold turn as well.
12-30-2009 , 03:02 PM
I fold turn. I dont want to call turn because your hand is nearly to be face up. What you are 3-beting pre and flating on 2 strits on this board: QQ, JJ very often. Vs this range his bluffing range can make izi move on the river and you have to fold the best hand, because on blank river you fold to sth like 3/4 or pot bet(what very often he does) without reads.
12-30-2009 , 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
hmmm I like the concept overall but not sure if I like it as much with the villain cold calling a 3 bet pre-flop....
12-30-2009 , 05:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
I'm a big fan of this line as well. These microbets tilt me more than anything in the world especially after overcalling my reraise.
12-30-2009 , 06:17 PM
Wow I'm surprised, I thought I was going to get smacked down for my suggestion

I too am very confused by his cold call of 3bet and then these tiny bets, unless he's flatting all sorts of stuff here that he shouldn't I'd say his most likely hand would be JJ or AQ/AJ of clubs or spades if his bets are honest, but it could also be KK or AA trying to induce in a weird way.
12-30-2009 , 07:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
wtf I think thats awful
12-31-2009 , 01:18 AM
gotta fold turn. those min leads tilt me so bad tho i feel you
12-31-2009 , 02:38 AM
I can't think of any range that the SB if flatting with especially considering how likely utg +1 should be reshipping here pre. AK seems pretty unlikely since most people are shipping pre. If he's flatting then I'd expect him to bet larger on the flop or turn. Since he requested time I'm thinking he has AQ/JJ with JJ more likely and on the flop he's going for a cheap showdown/bluff. I think you have to call turn and call most rivers depending on bet sizing.
12-31-2009 , 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soepgroente
Minraise the flop, fold if he shoves. Check behind turn after minraise and call river if the draws miss. Cheapest showdown & most value out of worse.
This. [/thread]

      
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