No real history or any big hands so far..My line till the river is surely debatable but i felt that c/r-ing this rainbow flop would look supastrong. The river just made me sick. Thoughts?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
FTOPS Event #29

Stacks:
UTG oopsULu412 (7,084)
UTG+1 43forty (5,970)
CO KudelyKQ (5,115)
BTN TheSquee (6,054)
SB Hero (4,617)
BB mezvinsm (7,160)

Blinds: 10/20 Ante 3

Pre-Flop: (48, 6 players) Hero is SB 8 8
3 folds, TheSquee raises to 60, Hero calls 50, mezvinsm calls 40

Flop: K 4 8 (198, 3 players)
Hero checks, mezvinsm checks, TheSquee bets 120, Hero calls 120, mezvinsm calls 120

Turn: 7 (558, 3 players)
Hero checks, mezvinsm checks, TheSquee checks

River: A (558, 3 players)
Hero checks, mezvinsm checks, TheSquee bets 360, Hero raises to 995, mezvinsm raises to 2,630, TheSquee folds,

very easy fold.

Snap call. You only lose to 56, he raises AA and KK preflop. He has a lower set a lot (or air).

Over you. He may have 56 but to say his 3betting range is only 56 and is obviously only 56 is condescending and wrong.

Oh not to mention Squee checks the turn, we would expect Mez to bet 56 a lot on the river.

i pretty much thouht that after raising me on the river he either has air or the nuts (maybe this is wrong but i stll think that its lolbad to raise 44 or 77 here).

as he check/called the flop he does not have too many air in his range, he might be turning some kind of Kx into a bluff but i dont think so. its certainly weird to put someone on only 1 hand but i think this would be a herocall to make and i think folding wud be standard..

Yea it is probably air more often than a low set. But if it's AA/KK <1% of the time, then he needs to have 56 at least 73% of the time to make this a fold. Snap call.

yu completly underrepped ur hand, why wud u ever wanna fold to tht guy unless u have a supersick read he is the biggest nit ever.
he reraises AA/KK like 95% of the time pre to make the pot bigger.
he might have 56 but tht is so unlikly.
If you were him would you bet KK on flop? which hand wud call u then? i guess AA might bet to get value from Kx hands, but checkin turn with AA wudnt make much sense imo.
the problem is the way u played the hand, villain might even think his 2pair is gud.
this is far away from a fold imo

turbomuck

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TT


Care to explain why this is a fold? AA,KK rereaise Pre. 56 wouldn't have stayed in on the flop. What do we lose to?

I didn't go to Harvard, but I'm going to go out on a limb and speculate that perhaps Todd disagrees with one of your assumptions about eliminating AA/KK/56 from villain's range.

In case you were just helping him understand the hand ranking, and thought that he might have messed up, I'll clearly diagram it.

Nuts: 56 (straight)
2nd Nuts: AA (Three of one kind aces)
3rd nuts: KK (Three of one king kings)
4th nuts: 88 (Three of one kind eights)
5th nuts 77 (Three of one kind sevens)

Now that we are all on the same page, there are two possible scenarios.

1. Todd thinks villain can have 56/KK/AA so therefore he can lose to those hands!
2. Todd doesn't understand hand rankings in poker.

Glad to be of service, I'll wait for the legend himself to respond ITT on this COMPLEX HAND because people just always spaz out and cold 3bet bluff rivers early on in 2k online donkaments. And when they aren't doing that, they are going for thin value with 2pairs too in that same spot. Online is so crazy.

****ing kids.

Cheers!

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Nevertheless, I did offer a prop bet for people to take an IQ test vs. you earlier today, but got no takers.

This is 65 approximately 100% of the time. No one in the history of poker has checked twice and then cold 3bet the river without the nuts. And OP looks like he has a very strong hand, because very few players in MTTs check twice and then checkraise the river without a huge hand, which makes Villain's range even more nutted even though that's impossible.

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Oh man, details? Thread can turn good!

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I didn't make explicit that I was talking about you but I think it's fairly obvious to experienced readers of MTTc.

Why in the world is villain calling a gutterball on the flop here? I think villain has air a ton here. Villain 2 is almost never going to call here (wtf does he take this line with and call?) and so Villain can easily be making a play here. I think you are getting correct odds to call.

Gonna start cold 3'ing rivers and making fools fold their entire range.

LOL thats pretty cute that you think he is not calling with a guthsot, but still has a ton of air on river. would u be so kind to list me a couple of air hands like that?

thanks for the replies guys. i thought so this was a fairly easy fold so i (nonturbo) mucked. he didnt show so no results.

this guy is in a great spot to bluff because he should be getting called by only 65

this player is ******ed spewy doubt u can fold as played

mehhhhhhh

with that read, it's of course a call. but barring any read that specific to this player, it's a fold, for all of the reasons everyone else said.

There's a lot of insanely spewy players that river is still an easy fold against. Unless you've seen him tard out early in tournaments into a range that has a lot of nut hands in it prior with bluffs, then it's still a fold.

******ed spewy was a bit offensive, just spewy is accurate enough for me. good fold and as I recall u folded pretty fast.