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06-13-2008 , 07:56 AM

grafyx

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I have 18k and raise 7

to 1500. A guy with 80k chips flats on the button. The bb also calls. Cking told me that the guy is a friend of his who is good at PLO.

Flop A

I bet 3k. Button folds quickly. The BB calls after thinking for a few seconds.

Turn 5

BB moves in really fast.

I call?

I think if he has a set or ace he would crai on the flop expecting me to call.

06-13-2008 , 08:28 AM

MauriceSch

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wat?

06-13-2008 , 08:32 AM

flippetyflop

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Is this for real?

Even if he's making some sort of sick ******ed move with a pair of 88's your still crushed lol. Even if has a flush draw with overcards your a dog.

06-13-2008 , 08:38 AM

luckychewy

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just fold

06-13-2008 , 08:46 AM

grafyx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flippetyflop

Even if has a flush draw with overcards your a dog.

06-13-2008 , 09:04 AM

phillis

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i hope he had 5's

06-13-2008 , 09:29 AM

nath

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grafyx failed to mention the BB moved in for 5k
so he's getting ~3:1 to call

06-13-2008 , 09:36 AM

Bond18

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I don't C bet this flop into 2 players. Anyone else?

06-13-2008 , 11:21 AM

Billy Bibbit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bond18

I don't C bet this flop into 2 players. Anyone else?

Definitely not, especially if I thought this shorty's range of hands for continuing was wide enough that I felt the need to call here.

06-13-2008 , 12:18 PM

#10

Todd Terry

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

grafyx failed to mention the BB moved in for 5k
so he's getting ~3:1 to call

If you're getting this kind of price I don't see how you can fold. Very, very strange line by Villain, I tend to agree with OP's assessment of what he wouldn't play this way, but I can't think of much he would, so I'm not sure that gets us too far. Agree with not c-betting ze flop.

06-13-2008 , 03:42 PM

#11

grafyx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nath

grafyx failed to mention the BB moved in for 5k
so he's getting ~3:1 to call

damn. I suck at posting after playing all day.

06-13-2008 , 04:26 PM

#12

Black Aces 518

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wow. yeah i never c-bet this into 2 people, esp when one is in shove zone.

as played, i'm just pitching it. too often BB just wanted to break the bets into two streets to get it in. I don't think you are good close to 25% and plenty of the times you are you lose to KhQh or what the hell ever.

06-13-2008 , 06:31 PM

#13

yellowsub

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at least u got preflop right

06-14-2008 , 08:38 AM

#14

grafyx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowsub

at least u got preflop right

lol. 1/3 isn't bad.

06-14-2008 , 12:44 PM

#15

Eagles

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The cbet is really bad unlelss your deep enough to fire multiple streets.

06-15-2008 , 12:30 AM

#16

player bets

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rule of thumb...dont bluff past flop, overcall...go nuts on A high boards...without an A..as usually sum1 has 1.

06-15-2008 , 12:36 AM

#17

charder30

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what do u think he has then? dont u think he shoves flop with draws too? he might have a jack. lol.

06-15-2008 , 03:05 AM

#18

IWEARGOGGLES

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagles

The cbet is really bad unlelss your deep enough to fire multiple streets.

Lol what kind of streets are you planning on firing here?

Just check check check.

06-15-2008 , 05:16 AM

#19

w33ktight

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on what planet do you ever have the best hand here?

06-15-2008 , 06:57 PM

#20

FatalError

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Quote:

Originally Posted by w33ktight

on what planet do you ever have the best hand here?

depends whether you believe in infinate parrallel universes

i'm sure in one of them 8's are wild in texas holdem

06-15-2008 , 07:07 PM

#21

Pudge714

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IWEARGOGGLES

Lol what kind of streets are you planning on firing here?

Just check check check.

He meant the cbet is almost always -EV in a vacuum, but if you are deep enough that you can make profitable two and three barrels. Making the cbet +EV by setting up future +EV spots.

06-15-2008 , 07:14 PM

#22

EC10

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if you know what he had based on calling or him showing can you posts results plz, curious on this one

06-15-2008 , 09:29 PM

#23

grafyx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EC10

if you know what he had based on calling or him showing can you posts results plz, curious on this one

I called. 5h6h.

06-15-2008 , 09:51 PM

#24

TakenItEasy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grafyx

I called. 5h6h.

I think villain was trying to represent A5s? but, in my experience the quick push is often meant to mislead.

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