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11-17-2007 , 10:20 PM

ASPoker8

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Full Tilt Poker Game #4210528215: FTOPS Event #13 (30642026), Table 13 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:15:02 ET - 2007/11/17
Seat 1: jacksup (21,635)
Seat 2: uhadmoney (7,401)
Seat 3: RAZITUP2007 (13,025)
Seat 4: utreg (17,597)
Seat 5: Bussa Buss (27,092)
Seat 6: T_Preston_ (23,055)
Seat 7: 1-king-of-poker (7,164)
Seat 8: ProbBluffingYou (7,778)
Seat 9: 2DogsHumpin (20,691)
Everyone antes 25
ProbBluffingYou posts the small blind of 150
2DogsHumpin posts the big blind of 300
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ProbBluffingYou [Ad Jh]
jacksup folds
uhadmoney folds
RAZITUP2007 folds
utreg folds
Bussa Buss raises to 850
T_Preston_ folds
1-king-of-poker folds
ProbBluffingYou ???

BB is 3/3, Button is 2/2, Bakes is 33/22 so far

11-17-2007 , 10:28 PM

Bond18

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Considering the reads you've given, jamming looks pretty viable despite it being a pretty big one.

11-17-2007 , 10:54 PM

LearnedfromTV

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if you're going to jam why not go 2444 and call shove, shove flop if he calls

i guess thats better if you have like 9k b/c he probably never thinks you're folding. you definitely can 3bet/fold 72o here though.

11-17-2007 , 11:00 PM

Bond18

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LFTV,

I agree with deeper stacks the nominal 3 bet is better than shove, but i think bakes is too smart to ever think we're not getting our stack in.

11-17-2007 , 11:10 PM

ASPoker8

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Here's why I didn't want to go and go:

Bakes knows we're never folding after 3betting to like 2200-2600 or whatever, so hes not going to randomly 4bshove something stupid.

Also, Bakes is probably too smart to make incorrect calls preflop or call preflop and make mistakes when we shove the flop.

I dunno, I think this spot w/ these stacksizes is pretty interesting.

11-17-2007 , 11:17 PM

Exitonly

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i think i like jamming

11-17-2007 , 11:25 PM

Clayton

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super ez shove

folding seems dumb, and go-and-going seems really dumb. that is my rationale.

11-18-2007 , 01:20 AM

AGame18

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Shoving might be +EV not really sure, but getting in 23 bb's pre with AJo seems spewy for some reason.

11-18-2007 , 02:16 AM

NoahSD

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Shoving's gotta be good. But, if Bakes expects you to 3-bet less than AI with huge hands and 3-bet shove hands like AJ, why don't you 3-bet/fold?

11-18-2007 , 03:54 AM

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yaaam1484

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I dont like it, you got too many chips... fold is the only option imo. 6k I'd jam. You will probably (?) get AT+ 66+ before you're blinded down to 6k meanwhile you can still play decent tourney poker until that point.

11-18-2007 , 04:31 AM

#11

eBo

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Quote:

You're being result-oriented. Do u c y?

11-18-2007 , 04:44 AM

#12

dogsballs

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Quote:

super ez shove

folding seems dumb, and go-and-going seems really dumb. that is my rationale.

fwiw, I agree w Clayton. Don't fold; and any kind of messin around is giving something up to opp (eg a look at the flop prior to committing). Give him just call/fold preflop.

11-18-2007 , 06:44 PM

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KneeCo

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Shove, Hammer Time.

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