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(9,Stars 50k) 12 left, JJ vs. Min4B (9,Stars 50k) 12 left, JJ vs. Min4B

10-27-2008 , 12:43 AM
The button was active and open raised about 20%, more in late position. Last orbit he folded when I 3-bet his steal attempt.
His total stats over 105 hands are 17/14/inf (ATS: 53%)
The table has been tight and 3-bets usually take down the pot.
My stack is above average and there are 12 players left.

No-Limit Hold'em, $10000.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($338891)
SB ($129959)
Hero (BB) ($251176)
UTG ($153816)
MP ($465164)
CO ($145917)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
3 folds, Button raises $22800, 1 fold, Hero raises $49176, Button raises $95200,

Hero ???

Payouts:
1st $19k
2nd $14k
3rd $10k
4th $7763
5th $5434
6th $4399
7th $3364
8th $2329
9th $1449
10th $1087
11th $1087
12th $1087
10-27-2008 , 01:26 AM
It tilts me so much when people do stuff like this since you know as soon as you 3bet that you are not looking to get away from the hand and then some joker decides he wants to let you try to hero fold.

Too many times I've seen people fold in spots like this, or occasionally call with air.

Also, I don't mind small 3bets in spots like this, but yours is too small
10-27-2008 , 01:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coronet
Also, I don't mind small 3bets in spots like this, but yours is too small
Are you aware that my raise is $49176+$10000(BB)? If yes, how much do you think I should raise?
10-27-2008 , 01:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LouisCyphre
Are you aware that my raise is $49176+$10000(BB)? If yes, how much do you think I should raise?
Nope, I really like your raise size in this case

Does his 4bet size mean 22k+ 95k? If so I snap get it in
10-27-2008 , 01:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coronet
Does his 4bet size mean 22k+ 95k?
Yes, it does. The converter could have displayed the actual bet sizes clearer.
10-27-2008 , 02:47 AM
sorry not folding JJ 6-handed bb vs button, raise sizes irrelevant
10-27-2008 , 05:38 AM
i would get it in given that hes button and you have JJ 6 handed and 25 bbs.
10-27-2008 , 06:53 AM
Time to get it in and get shown AA/KK like every time but AK just often enough that it's go time. God i hate when nit tards do this, I just wanna punch every ****ing dick head who min 4 bets thinking he's so clever to entice a spaz out.
10-27-2008 , 11:19 AM
Let it go. He wont have 4 bet with 10's or less so you not beating any pairs. He's either got you dominated with QQ, KK or AA or your in a coin flip situatin with AK IMO.
What was the outcome?
10-28-2008 , 04:38 AM
All in
10-28-2008 , 05:02 AM
get allin and its not even remotely close
10-28-2008 , 06:06 AM
all-in, and you can 3b bigger, your 3 bet is barely twice the size of his raise. 3 betting bigger makes your decision easier when he 4 bets, but your 3 bet size isn't a huge mistake.
10-28-2008 , 06:12 AM
cib
10-28-2008 , 06:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pulse
all-in, and you can 3b bigger, your 3 bet is barely twice the size of his raise. 3 betting bigger makes your decision easier when he 4 bets, but your 3 bet size isn't a huge mistake.
Have you read the thread before posting?
I don't think that 3-betting bigger to make my decision easier when he 4-bets is a sound strategy.
10-29-2008 , 07:48 PM
Should the prize structure be part of the consideration? If I fold here I still have an (above) average stack. If I go all-in, don't I have more equity to lose than to gain?
10-29-2008 , 08:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ASPoker8
get allin and its not even remotely close
This


Quote:
Originally Posted by osmea
Let it go. He wont have 4 bet with 10's or less so you not beating any pairs. He's either got you dominated with QQ, KK or AA or your in a coin flip situatin with AK IMO.
What was the outcome?
jesus, just quit it.
10-29-2008 , 08:58 PM
gogo allin and claim riggedness when he shows AA or KK...but yea i think its a flip often enough to get it in especially since its 6 handed
10-30-2008 , 03:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond18
God i hate when nit tards do this, I just wanna punch every ****ing dick head who min 4 bets thinking he's so clever to entice a spaz out.
qfmft
10-30-2008 , 07:37 PM
he raises last hand on button and u 3 bet and he folded? OBV get it in, he might tilt a little and try to reresteal here and jj is monstaaaah
10-31-2008 , 02:01 AM
Results:
I shove. Villains calls with AA.

If he pushes right away I snap-call him but his silly min-raise actually made me consider folding.

      
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