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10-21-2009 , 08:19 PM
MP2 is Hustlergrune and the flatter is just an unknown. Easy jam?

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SB: t4500 M = 30
BB: t1805 M = 12.03
UTG: t5345 M = 35.63
UTG+1: t2490 M = 16.60
MP1: t1951 M = 13.01
MP2: t1980 M = 13.20
CO: t5465 M = 36.43
BTN: t2645 M = 17.63

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is with T T
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t100, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t400, 1 fold, BTN calls t400 Hero ???

edit: also in before "cashout pre" jokes
10-21-2009 , 08:32 PM
I like a fold. with the raiser's stack i wouldn't doubt he just jams AK/AQ and probably 99 also. Wouldn't think he is ever light or folding here either.
10-21-2009 , 08:52 PM
Not sure what happened to ur HH but I assume ur SB? I just fold, when he 4x's with 20 bbs he just has the goods all day.
10-21-2009 , 08:53 PM
Not a easy jam but a spot that you could set yourself up pretty good with
2 calls.
I think you jam here if you are going to play this hand.

If you just call you would lose one or both with a bad flop.

Checking the flop and jamming any raise would be my 2nd favorite way to play this one.
10-21-2009 , 09:35 PM
Ehhh I think you can shove TT here, 99 is questionable. Even against a super tight MP2 range of 99+ AQ+ you have 44.2% equity and the button's flat does not scare me at all if he's an unknown. Non 2+2ers show up with KK+ there so rarely.

So even in the worst case scenario of MP2 only iso'ing 99+ AQ+ there's enough dead $ in there to jam.
10-21-2009 , 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Truckin
Not a easy jam but a spot that you could set yourself up pretty good with
2 calls.
I think you jam here if you are going to play this hand.

If you just call you would lose one or both with a bad flop.

Checking the flop and jamming any raise would be my 2nd favorite way to play this one.
Stick to truckin'.
10-21-2009 , 09:38 PM
fwiw I am button not sb, not sure why it messed up.
10-21-2009 , 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TT_fold
Stick to truckin'.
Must be basing this off other threads.

My play is the same as yours in this post.
10-21-2009 , 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaineTech
Not sure what happened to ur HH but I assume ur SB? I just fold, when he 4x's with 20 bbs he just has the goods all day.
Kinda feeling this unless we have further reads on hustler... it's kinda close cuz although his range is only good hands, it still could be a range that TT is flipping with, but then we have 2 people left to act... pretty marginal.
10-22-2009 , 12:13 AM
UTG limp helps me find a fold
10-22-2009 , 01:11 AM
ehhh i think id just fold here
10-22-2009 , 11:47 AM
bump for more thoughts
10-22-2009 , 12:16 PM
I'm not really all that familiar with HustlerGrune's play, but I played with them for a little while yesterday and they're probably pretty tight in this spot. I think you can fold fairly easily mement.

Last edited by J_HasTheNuts; 10-22-2009 at 12:16 PM. Reason: cashout pre
10-22-2009 , 10:46 PM
Flat and cashout post.
10-22-2009 , 11:05 PM
fold and cashout
10-22-2009 , 11:27 PM
Maybe I'm just high but I'm confused if ur the button did u flat? or was someone who acted before you who flatted?
10-22-2009 , 11:32 PM
someone before flatted, I ended up folding and feeling too nitty

      
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