Squat +avg band

275x4 @7.5
300x4 @8
320x4 @9
305x4 @9

Bench (tng)

225x8 @7
245x8 @8.5
255x8 @10
240x8 @10

PP

155x8 @8
165x7 @9.5 Failed 8th
150x8 @9

DL + dbl mini

385x4@8
410x4 @8.5
425x4 @9
405x4 @9

CGBP + mini

185x8 @7
205x8 @8
225x7 @9.5 Failed 8th
205x8 @9

SGDL

275x8 @7
315x8 @9
300x8 @9

I didnt drink M-F for the first time in months. Time to go drink now

Same. I didn't drink anything Mon/Tue.

... 'cept then I had a few beers on Wednesday and Thursday and got sh*t faced on Friday. Only one pint on Saturday tho.

I seriously wish I had your restraint. I can't drink a couple. If I have one it automatically leads to 15+

Not to be that guy, but that's probably an issue you should address at some point in the not too distant future Weasel.

I appreciate the concern. I know I should fix it but I think the only way to do that is not to drink. I've been drinking like this for like 10 years. back then it wasn't that much of a problem cause after 12 beers I would be hammered. Now I need to drink like 18 to get hammered. I have no idea why I need to get hammered when I drink. Even if the place I'm at is bad I'd rather stay there and drink then go home

I'm pretty much living pay check to pay check cause I drink this much. I'm probably worse than ytf with my money.

My best friend was a worse drinker than me and he went to aa and has been sober for almost a year now. I know I should do that but I just get so dam bored if I don't drink.

/drunk emo talk

Try for more extended periods of not drinking.

You just went M-F without a drink.

Now go for a full week.

Then extend that.

Cold turkey works for some.

I quit smoking cigs by weaning myself off of them. I would hold at five. Then three a day for a long time. Then two and one.

It's obv different, but my point is to create attainable (but tough) goals and build on them.

You can do it. You obv have to really want to do it, though.

Thanks Aura. How many cigs were you smoking at your peak when you weaned your self off of them. That sounds insane to me.

I did the same as aura when quitting smoking. Small, attainable goals. Cut back until I was smoking one in the morning, one in the afternoon, one in the evening. Then one in the morning and I would delay the one in the afternoon until it was so late that I may as well count it as the evening cig. Then I would skip the morning and smoke at night. Then I smoked half. Once I was smoking half it was like uhhh why? And I quit.

Lots of people say that's making it harder than it has to be. Alan Carr's book Easy Way to Stop Smoking seems to be quite popular. Ultimately, you have to recognize that you're using drinking or smoking as a tools or coping strategies. If you cut them out, you'll need to know why you were using them and what healthy habits should replace them.

Yeah...don't want to be that guy either. Lol at Monte, he really is an old man. But, completely agree with him. Also, want to say, empathize with you completely. When I was younger, I had monster appetite for everything (still do). Last man standing always. Bored to tears with daily life. Got beyond that in my early 20's. Most of the guys I knew did not and I can only tell you, not getting past it is a guaranteed life fail.

Lots of respect for quitting smoking in small steps, I could never do that. I had to quit cold turkey....like a heroin addict. Felt sick doing it and wanted a cigarette every minute or two for days and days....then eventually it lessened to a few times a day etc etc Still, 20 years later, will want a cigarette every so often. Couple times a year.

****ing evil ****.

I smoked around ten a day for many years. Of course, I'd smoke more when I was drunk.

It helps if you can avoid situations where you're drunk and people around you are smoking.




I found that I smoked in certain situations.

I made goals to stop smoking during those situations. After that, it is much, much easier.

The times I focused on were:

• upon waking
• after a meal
• when drunk

Once I had those situations licked, then quitting was much easier.


As far as replacing something with smoking, you could lift more or do some cardio. Obv other great options like some sort of hobby or something that improves your life.


glgl

I was waiting tables at the time. It was insanely difficult to quit in that environment. Everyone went outside at night for a smoke. Rude not to join them

I also found it next to impossible to go to cafes and not smoke. Coffee and cigs was an amazing way to relax. I miss that the most.

Yeah, I was never a big coffee drinker, so I guess that helped.

I can see how waiting tables would have made it harder.

I basically holed myself up for a few months. You gotta do what you gotta do.

How long ago did you quit, BR?

I'm at eleven years. Don't miss it at all.

Ten years ago. I miss smoking. I loved it. But I don't feel tempted anymore. My health is too important to me. And as much as we joke about the cigs helping Weasel hit PRs, I believe smoking inhibits gym performance. Not worth it imo.

I'm pretty sure I never joked about it. Maybe I did once. I usually don't joke about smoking. It's a gross habit. I agree, though.

I think the Weas is def hindered by the smoking.

I think figuring out the why behind the excessive drinking is probably the most important thing to do, because there's at least some chance that you're self medicating because of other issues. Whether or not you need to stop drinking entirely is probably something that would be worth evaluating with the help of a professional.

All of us that are my age and older have known a bunch of guys that weren't able to get past it, and it's a lot less charming at 35 than 25 -- all of your buddies are married, a lot have kids, and regardless their SOs don't want those types of guys around.

I'm definitely in the Allen Carr camp and think it's the best way to go. I quit 2 years ago after reading it. Hearing Weasel's thoughts and concerns it seems to me as if tapering down has very little chance of succeeding for him. The book explains the psychology behind the craving, and it's just an incredible eye-opener when you start understanding the process. The biggest benefit is that the book changes your mindset from "I'd really like a cigarette right now, but I can't" to "My craving is asking for a cigarette, but I don't want to". Quitting by tapering down really is just making it hard on yourself. Plus that the whole plan is probably just f*cked after the very first weekend because of Weasel's drinking habits.

But awesome to hear that it worked for the both of you!


I quit cold turkey in China, where smoking is still a huuuge part of the culture, and pretty much allowed (and encouraged) everywhere. Also a pack of cigs only cost me $1 over there. selfpat.jpg

My dad used to smoke 3 packs a day. He woke up feeling like **** one day and decided to quit cold turkey. He never smoked again. He never talked about how hard or easy it was, but he seemed proud to have quit and never went back to smoking.

lolz yeah, I'm getting better at this... but it is still a once a week 15+ bender.

Friday night me and my couples friends went out for dinner... 'cept Mrs Snitch was working so I went solo.

Everyone had a couple of beers with dinner. I had six. And a bottle of sake. Then everyone went out for desert. I got my friend to drop me at the casino and got sh*t faced. Then I bummed a smoke off a guy outside on the way home.

...but then Saturday night I literally only had one beer... and Sunday I had not heaps. Maybe 5-6.

This was me in college. I mean it doesn't hold u back much as far as strength/aesthetics go if u ask me, but I think you'll make much better gains the less often u drink.

Take an extended break from alcohol and if u just so happen to want to get drunk again, you'll find that your tolerance has dropped a lot. u won't need 15+ anymore and prob will only need 4-6 to get there.

I used to drink ~5-7 almost every day and didnt feel much from that. If I drank 10+, I got pretty blasted. I usually drink 0 - 2 a day lately and haven't had more than ~5 or 6 since Slacker (2+2er from sttf) visited me a few years ago. We each had 10+ one night and I hated life the next morning. I usually start feeling a slight buzz with much over 2 or 3 now.

cliffs - I basically agree with Busto.

However, it seems like your personality might require you to quit entirely because you might have a hard time cutting back.

Weasel is this like going out to bars type drinking or just like spice up some chilling at home with tv kind of drinking? Very different types of habits to break imo.

pretty sure he'll say both because u don't get drunk off a few drinks once you're used to drinking that much that often... and then what's the point of having a few drinks if you won't get drunk? (that was and sometimes still is my mindset, anyway)

O no I get that I'm basically just asking if he's going out or not, because I think the interaction with other people changes the nature of the habit he's trying to break.

It's going out to bars. If I'm home I won't drink