I think it was closer to $50! :P

I don't see how, I weigh and measure most everything, and except for the occasional piece of fruit I forget to add I don't leave anything out. Is there any way to determine what a base metabolic rate is? I'm just using what MFP says for an inactive person with my stats. Guess I'll just try and increase the deficit even more.

There are a ton of calculators online; here's a good one:

http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/

And you want TDEE, not BMR. BMR (basal metabolic rate) is the amount is energy your body needs just to exist on a daily basis; TDEE (total daily energy expenditure) is your BMR multiplied by an activity coefficient to estimate how many calories you actually burn in a day.

that gave pretty much exactly the same numbers as MFP, so they probably use a very similar formula.

Guess I'll just try harder at not eating as much and hopefully get some downward momentum. Can't be sitting at 202 still in a couple days

If you're truly eating what your numbers say you are, then your only option is to either eat less, add in some strenuous activity, or both.

I still think that if you ate at a 500 calorie deficit (which I'd guess would be around 2100-2200 calories) and stuck to single ingredient foods for two weeks (e.g. eggs, fruit, tomatoes for breakfast and lean protein, two vegetables, and a small serving of the starchy carb of your choice for lunch and dinner, with fruit for snacks, and targeted 130-150 g protein, mostly from lean meats) that you'd magically discover that your stall evaporates. Mostly because the same has always proved true for me.

And for most others on this forum, too. Hyper carby good is easy to underestimate and, not that fruit is bad, but if you're routinely not logging a free decent sized honeycrisps, for example, that could be 250 missed calories, which adds up. Weigh everything.

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Alobar, as said, log EVERYTHING. That's the way to go. I'm not logging anything but I use a different method this time, tons of veggies. But when I logged for myself a few years ago I even counted coffee (1-2 cal ), or at least weighed the carrots I had. Must go back to the log, those were the times. Think I just wrote down the calorie numbers and added, cut out details like what food or drink I had

6/23

previous: 203.7 203.7 202.3 201.5 202.1 202.4 202.4 202.4

weight: 199.8



I ****ed up dinner My girlfriend dragged me to a new brewery she wanted to go to and I had made up my mind before we went all I was going to eat was a side salad. Then I saw they had tri colored nachos with melted cheese not that queso ****, and I buckled and ordered them. I only ate half and they werent a big order, so it was less calories im sure than what I ended up listing, but just put that in. To top it off they were C+/B- nachos at best. They put corn into the mix, they went waaay too light on the cheese, the carne asada wasn't very good, and I guess someone in the back ate all the blue corn chips cuz it was just red and white.

On the plus side I guess I've gone from binging uncontrollably is what upsets me, to refusing beer and eating a half order of nachos has me mad at myself. So thats progress I suppose.

Didn't train today cuz I figured id give myself another rest day, and my back is ****ing killing me anyway. Hopefully it's a little better tomorrow.

I log everything, ive only not logged a couple things that I post cuz I forgot to add them or I added it after I screen capped, but I go back and put it in on my end. And thats only been a couple times and it'll be a peach or something small.

I weigh and measure everyting. The only things I havent are like peaches and bananas and strawberries. But carrots and broccoli and everything else I do. Everything that I know a service size for basically.

Is there benefit to fruit besides vitamins, basically just seems like a bunch of calories, couldnt I just take a multivitamin and save those calories?


I'm just going to try and hit a bigger deficit going forward and try and work more protein in the mix.

Congrats on breaking the 200!

For the third time!






I think fruit is good to eat for more than just the vitamins (though many best-selling fad diet authors would beg to differ), but if you have to give up one, definitely give up fruit before Dr Pepper

GOGOGO!

Can you answer clearly and unambiguously the question:
Do you want to give-up dr.Pepper?

I mean, if you don't, I will just stop pestering you. But if you do.... I mean....

What's the count at Lapka?

2900 +4*210= 3740 ckal from Dr. Pepper.

till this moment.

I mean ..... everyone needs some crap food sometimes.

I look sometimes at my mom. She is now morbidly obese and has severe health problems due to that. And I look at her pictures around 30 y.o. and I can' t stop crying about what food did with her. It is for me HUGE motivation not to repeat her food habits.

And the thing with Alobar and dr. Pepper is that dr. Pepper is a habit. It is not occasionally drinking or not drinking it. And I mean..... Alobar has to decide if he wants to kick it. It makes no sense pestering him if he actually wants to continue his marriage with dr. Pepper.

Thought about buying some Dr.Pepper one of the most recent times I went to the supermarket. There was only the original so no deal, but one day...think I have never tasted it.

Dr.Pepper may as well be a form of talisman keeping him going in this project, if so he may eliminate it later, not necessarily now. This is much about letting results talk for themselves.

thanks, tho I wont consider that im under 200 until my high is under that!

yeah, thats what i was thinking as well, thanks!

ugh, i do and I don't. On one hand I know its not healthy and its calories I dont need, and I hate the loss of control feeling that accompanies a binge on it. On the other it makes me happy! Im thinking if i just limit myself to a liter on fri/sat that its ok?

I'll probably get flamed for this post but oh well...I think that drinking some soda here and there would be perfectly acceptable. Let's say you drink 2 liters of Dr. Pepper each weekend. That is roughly 300 kcal. To make things easy let's say you are consuming 2kcal a day on average. 300 calories is 2% of your weekly caloric intake. That is absolutely nothing to beat yourself up over.

I went back and re-read your original post. To me it seems like what you are really after is a healthier relationship with food. Beating yourself up over having some nachos, going over on your calories or having some Dr. Pepper isn't very productive. While it may help you lose weight, you are still having strong emotional responses to food choices. I think as long as you can continue to make slightly better choices than you previously have you will keep on progressing. You are down 9lbs or so since you started this thread. Just keep on trucking! Don't sweat it if you fall off the wagon here and there.

There is even some evidence that having scheduled diet breaks is a more efficient way to lose fat than being on a deficit for an extended period of time. See pages 63-64 in the following link:

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/s...p2fmdssicsppwr

Cotton,

Might want to recheck those calories, hoss.

Your incorrect caloric information aside, I generally agree that, if he can fit Dr Pepper into his calorie/macro needs, then a bit per week is fine. That said, for many (myself included), binging on one trigger for leads to binging on others. IIFYM can work for some, whereas others are better off cutting out certain foods entirely. Self knowledge is key.

I would sooooooooooooo think about the sentence "Dr. Pepper makes me happy". I would make a list of all things that make you happy and do something from that list that is not food related.

And I definitely won't tell you how much of Dr. Pepper is OK. But I really would like you to write here down, what do you want. Not what your goal should be, but what do you really really want. Consider at the formulation the price you are willing to pay.

Thanks for pointing that out. Looks like I was off by a good bit there. For whatever reason when I googled the calories 150 was the first result and I did not double check it.

Why do you think the binging on one item can lead to more binging? I agree with you that it does, but am curious as to your thoughts on the mechanism behind it. Is this similar to a poker player who makes a poor play, beats him or herself up over it and makes more mistakes as a result or something entirely different?

cotton, it may be related to this recent research
https://www.cell.com/cell-metabolism...131(18)30325-5

Alobar, I'm with you man, don't let Lapka break you...keep drinking that dr. pepper.

"massive swings in water weight will get you discouraged and lose you money. I don't know why fatties insist on reinventing the wheel. They egomaniacs who know it all and end up falling flat on their face."

and keep pwning this guy.

6/24

previous: 203.7 202.3 201.5 202.1 202.4 202.4 202.4 199.8

weight: 200.7



FTP workout

warmup
5min at 175w
3 min at 100w
5 x 5min at 160w 2 min at 120w
cooldown

Dr pepper fixation itt. Who cares about some Dr pepper? Can't see any in the diary above.

But I can see -100 cal.