I've bookmarked his hollow rock vids cuz I do want to look at that. I want to see if better lower abdominal strength and control might help with whatever is going on in my leg. I'm at the very scientific stage of throwing **** at the wall and see what sticks.

Probably whatever is going on in your leg is directly a result of your body breaking down due to the stress you have put on it. I am always a little amazed that so many of you guys who are squatting heavy in your 30s are surprised that you are getting injured and looking for "fixes" that don't involve just stopping lifting heavy weights.

I think there is a general misconception that if you lift with perfect form and prefab and rehab and diet and sleep perfectly you should be able to lift heavy forever.

Nope. All of our bodies are going to break down. Sure there is some variance due to environmental and genetic factors, but that the end of the day **** just stops working the older you get, and stressing your body is only going to accelerate the process.

The end.

Sounds like you got it all figured out.

Also should probably stop playing sports, running, jumping, sitting, moving....hey, wait a minute....

Yes our bodies break down. I do believe there are ways that you can slow our degradation by being active (yes, including lifting weights) that can be done safely. Of course that will vary by person (genetics, prior history) and we will be prone to overdo or underdo things at time and be forced to adjust our plan. Kinda sounds like life in general, no? Adapt, adjust & grow?

There's probably a large correlation of injury risk with when and how long, when you started and what 'heavy' means.

Meaning if you never tread into the 1-3 rep range and spend all your time in the 5-8 is it ever really considered "heavy"?

Kyleb: nice pics and nice post looks like an awesome place

Soulbro: Super jelly, going to Italy is a dream of mine. I highly recommend the movie "The Trip" starring Steve Coogan and some British dude I'd never heard of who is apparently famous (that might include Coogan for a lot of people). The movie is awesome and takes place in Italy. Actually I'd recommend to just about anyone it's awesome, or better yet watch the two seasons of the show it came from.

Yeah, I agree with all of that. I guess the difference is that I am more of a pessimist where I think if you stress your body heavily it is gonna break down no matter what, and little prehab/rehab things you do aren't gonna do a whole lot at that point. All you can do is pretty much stop stressing your body and see if it can heal itself (or do surgery and then rest you body and see if it heals).

But if squatting heavy is causing you chronic hip pain, you probably are not going to accomplish a whole lot if you decide to keep squatting heavy and throw in some extra stretches or ab work or rolling or whatever as a fix.

Agreed. I'm not even lifting.

Glad we can all see the value in modern medicine. (Quick Ban somewhat. Gotta start somewhere.)

I believe in the value of modern medicine. I also think there are costs and limitations that often aren't adequately addressed.

Out of curiosity, what do you think is the optimum exercise regimen for someone your age. Presumably you agree no excise is suboptimal. And in your mind heavy lifting is out. So, what do you recommend. Just lift, but keeps the weights down. If so, how much less? if not lifting, then what?

Probably depends on your goals. If your goal is to have as much functional strength and mobility as long as possible probably doing yoga and pilates stuff.

If your goal is to mate with (and probably eventually divorce after she spits out a couple kids) with attractive superficial girls bodybuilding stuff and PEDs probably the route to go

If you dont really care about how you look or destroying your body, and your goal is just to be competitive in a pseudo strength sport noone with any real athletic ability will ever bother with than geared powerlifting obv.

If you come from a poor 3rd world country and want to elevate your family from a lower to middle class lifestyle and have natural strength than olympic weightllifting, and then as soon as you retire never touch a weight again and get fat.

jdock #hottakes scorching the lc thread up in hurrrr.

What about somebody who wants many children with multiple women none of whom they will marry?

I recently realized that I have to learn to accept the culture in which we live today rather than to judge it and trying to be better than it. Maybe QB was right after all.

Never go full quickben apologist

Starting a show called the strain, anyone on this train?

Vampires, again?

As a fellow old I can heartily recommend joining a group that does interval hill sprints, seems very effective for getting a calf strain.

Besides that unfortunate little incident, I'm sort of surprised how little DOMS I experienced compared to two other novices - none of whom have lifted much in recent years. Guess five years of squatting baby weights is good for something. Also surprised at how fun it is. Thread mill forever abandoned.


Large wallet/be famous ldo.


Thanks for the rec, added to the top of my movies to watch list

It's not an ideal time of year to go since Novembro tends be fairly rainy, but it'll still be sweet. Been to Italy three times before, it's a pretty awesome country to vacation in - though the Italians are really, really bad at Engrish. Even in the bigger cities like Milan.

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Mind blown, leg drive overrated...

I've kinda been feeling this too, actually. If you olytard, it can make a lot of sense to bs because you likely don't DL and your wrists are constantly under stress. If you are a bber or doing some sort of sports specific training, I think you end up developing relative pchain dominance even if you HBBS (maybe not if you are a Hobbit).

Main thing is that god damn even for trained olylifters holding the FS rack just ****ing sucks and takes so much energy + you have potential to strain wrists if you take reps too high.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying except for the lack of medium/5-10ish rep lifting. I mean if something's bothering you as you age then sure stop or sub that movement out. But the science has clearly shown the superiority of full body strength training for "functional aging" as we could call it.

Pchain dominance over what? Lack of quad development? I don't see that happening.

I'd love to stop BSing altogether, since I just recently concluded that pretty much any weight over 250 bothers my hip, but I'd like to be convinced.

I'm an old. Here's my experience. Don't know if it applies to all olds.

I've always lifted but until I got here I didn't squat or dl. A combination of back issues and I just didn't do it.

The number one thing that helped me was core/rolling. It has been life changing.

As far as lifting, I feel like squatting and DLing has been extremely beneficial. I definitely feel stronger and better.

There really isn't any lift I can't do, or need to avoid.

However................... The actual work I do is really difficult to manage. The line between beneficial training and overtraining is really thin. I just don't recover like I used to. If I do too many sets or push that last rep too hard, it has a negative effect. This is the most mentally challenging part of my old guy workouts. I used to push myself really hard and it's sort of ingrained in my brain. But I know it's counterproductive. It's an internal battle.

yes, lack of quad development. You wouldn't understand though with being 5'8+short limbed or whatever.


Okay, maybe i'm generalizing too much. I think most people with average height+average limb length who do BS+DL only with no quad isolation work, leg press, single leg stuff, oly lifts, etc are going to have glutes+lower back that are much stronger than their quads. Not uniformly true, of course.