Don't lift weights at all. You need your body to consume muscle in order to achieve your goal. You will lose this bet if you do anything to cause your body to preserve your lean muscle mass. Cutting down on your protein intake will help.

Shooting to lose 50 pounds while doing a SS type routine to preserve and even build lean mass would be infinitely superior to what you're doing in terms of health, fitness, and appearance.

Yep there will be no weight training involved just sit ups, press ups, treadmill, bike, swimming and boxing.

Food: tons of veg , slimming shakes, fruit, vitamin supplements and at least 2 litres of water a day.

Once I won the bet (like that I see myself winning) then I will be weight training to get a good shape.

This post is spot on IMO...

...I hope 100% so because Im working on losing 51 lbs in 12 weeks right now (first 4 weeks down 22lbs using SS, no alcohol and a mean ass M-F diet)

GL, you can do it...

second part is, first part isn't at all (calories imo).

id advocate walking too, esp if you are too tired or sore on certain days. just walk 30min-1hr, 3 times a day. its a relatively pain free way to contribute to caloric deficit.

True, I should have cut out the first part... but I think it will be fairly impossible to do the massive caloric burn/deficit along with heavy lifting to achieve this high of a goal at his starting weight. I weighed 368 on 1/3 and I wouldnt even think I could do this if I went psycho focused..

I am John Casey I come up with this bet.

Really hope you do lose the weight but don't think you will mate but glglgl


pay me please lol

Please explain. A pound of fat loss requires a deficit of 3500 calories. A pound of lean muscle loss requires far less. I've read figures of around 700 calories. If you take steps to protect your lean muscle, you will need a much larger net deficit since more of your weight loss will come from fat. If you cannibalize muscle freely, you will lose weight faster.

I voted no but that was because I think 20 weeks is a bit too short but you could definitely make some very, very good progress I think. It's not impossible that you do it imo so good luck.

Reading some Lyle McDonald books would be a good idea too imo.

The Guide to Flexible Dieting is excellent

and

Rapid Fat Loss Handbook is good for how to lose weight as fast as possible. Basically eat protein and veg with a heavy deficit. I think RFL (I've a couple of short RFL logs with past diets) is meh tbh but I dunno I thought i'd throw it out there.

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Thanks guys this thread is helping more than I could of hoped for

I will check these out, thanks

Yeah this is a fast loss weight bet so on a normal diet you build muscle, get fitter build a better shape and by working out drop weight.

That's not what I'm doing.

2 stage plan

0-20 weeks
Drop weight losing Fat and muscle mass but just feeding the muscle enough to keep healthy. Protein on low amounts and not every day.
Drop weight WIN bet

21 weeks+
Back to the Gym on a muscle building program to gain shape a muscle and to keep at the new weight FOREVER.

Get saving mate

I'M ON A MISSION

I don't want to sound like a hater, OP, but I hope you lose this bet. I think your long-term benefit would be to not lose 100lbs in 20 weeks.

All cool not a hater

A few people I know have expressed concerns but I have done some research and have a Doctor on board so all cool mate

Thanks for your concern

Cabbie,

The way I see it is that you are pretty much on a free roll (apologies for sinking to the depths of a poker analogy).

If you win, you score weight loss plus cash.

If you "lose", you score weight loss (unless you quit in the first week or so) minus a few pounds – the money kind.

In both scenarios, you should be gaining much knowledge regarding weight loss, eating right, better lifestyle, etc. As long as you take all you learn to heart, and don't go on some sort of huge rebound blow-up re: weight gain after the wager is over, then you win.

I'm thinking your biggest challenge will ultimately be whether you wind up having it in you to stick with lifestyle changes for the long term. I'm hoping you do.

PS - Disclosure: I voted 'no' just because I don't think you will hit the magic number – but even if you "only" get half-way there, you will win BIG.

i think this sentiment is pretty absurd

Good luck losing some weight.

The tone is serious, but ... really? Someone who has admitted to recurrent yoyo dieting is thinking of taking up a very extreme diet. That's bad, no? Lyle tells me it's bad adn I tend to believe him. What are the odds that any person who loses 100 pounds won't put, let's say 50, back on? 10%? 20%? It's not very high. Then take that population and select only the ones who have NOT established good, useful, long term habits during their diet (i.e. the ones who crashed their way there) and wasted away a ton of muscle in the process. Now what are the odds?

I'm not trying to talk him into gaining weight. Just if you're going to put in all the effort to lose it, do it in a way that gives you the best long term chance to keep it off. ****. I think I just got leveled.

mebbe its semantical or even nitty but you said this:

your top post says something different.

anyway, losing 100 lbs in 20 weeks would benefit the guy. it may not be the absolute best action on his part, but it would certainly be positive.

Did you consult a doctor, specifically a heart doctor, before you did this?

That aside, when I used to wash the pounds off before I ate them back, run a gallon+ of water with lemon thru your system a day. I had some 40-50 lb months in my early 20s, I just was never able to pull off the post-diet lifestyle. Dehydration can be a major health problem if youre really busting your fat ass, as we have the same body type. I peaked around 5'11 and 280s, and a good 2 hour workout leaves me down 10lbs if its cardio. If youre hardcore, weigh-in day, sweating, evacuating, and jizzing can take 15lbs, if you really care about the winning. Don't do the laxatives and trashbags though, if you want to live.

Maybe, but you can't evaluate a course of action by assuming the best possible result of that action.

The methods one uses to attempt to lose 100 pounds in 20 weeks (including deliberately cannibalizing lean body mass, as discussed ITT) can absolutely be negative.

so you're saying that by decreasing your BMR by doing nothing, you actually lose more weight given the same quantity of food?

Just googled the Lemon and Water and may add this in.

As I get fitter and start running I'll do what I used to do when I was fit and use a sauna suit which is a great way to lose weight and excess water while running in the last few weeks leading up to the weigh in.

Don't do the laxatives and trashbags though, if you want to live
Defo not doing that

I didn't add but my scales does weight and BMI which at the weigh in was 40

OBESE

Target 18-25 BMI