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11-21-2014 , 03:18 AM
Damn
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11-21-2014 , 03:27 AM
I know

I thought it was an alright channel and honestly most of it I just FF through but then he had an OHP video and was beet-red furious that he only got 225 for one

dude's lean, too. jelly
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11-21-2014 , 12:12 PM
Anyone have any good articles/vids on initiating leg drive on bench?

I'm trying to improve my leg drive. For awhile now I have just been constantly trying to drive my heels through the floor - from the moment I unrack the bar to the moment I finish.

My training partner does it a little different. He drives through his heels on the descent to stay tight, but once the bar hits his chest he relaxes his leg drive for a split second before driving his heels into the ground again. He seems to get a stronger upward force on the bar this way whereas my way tends to just put a constant static force on the bar.
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11-21-2014 , 12:21 PM
When that guy's butt lifts (but looks like it maintains contact with the bench), do those still get three whites?
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11-21-2014 , 02:53 PM
if your ass leaves the bench you get reds, but if it maintains contact you're good. check out dan greens sink and heave style for a very accomplished way of doing it. as long as the bar does not make any downward movement after the press call, you can let the bar sit into your chest then use initiated leg drive and body english to drive it up. he has some vids demonstrating it.
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11-21-2014 , 03:34 PM
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if your ass leaves the bench you get reds, but if it maintains contact you're good. check out dan greens sink and heave style for a very accomplished way of doing it. as long as the bar does not make any downward movement after the press call, you can let the bar sit into your chest then use initiated leg drive and body english to drive it up. he has some vids demonstrating it.
I think this also answers my question.
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11-21-2014 , 05:13 PM
i also find it better to try and drive the floor away from my head with my feet, than to drive my feet down towards the center of the earth. this may requirexyou to chalk your shirt and/or the bench wo you can maintain tension without sliding.
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11-21-2014 , 05:20 PM
Aidan,

This approach would necessarily only work if your legs are short enough so that you can get your knees low enough (i.e. at or below the level of the bench) when putting your feet out beyond the lower edge of the bench (i.e. being able to setup and successfully push through your heels).

I'm pretty sure for talls that's not really a feasible option, although I could just be montarded.
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11-21-2014 , 05:51 PM
i don't know what the angle your legs are at has to do with it, especially if you have to maintain flat feet a la ipf. illuminate me.
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11-21-2014 , 05:58 PM
Monte,

You are pretty much right but if you are a taller guy, you just have to position your feet so your knees are lower than your butt. You can either put your feet farther in front of you, have them way behind them if you are flexible enough, or have them way out to the side like this if you are flexible enough.



Aidan,

If your knees are above your butt and you push back, the most common thing is for your butt to go up to the level of your knees so it is easier for it to come off the bench. The higher your knees are, the higher your butt is going to want to go when you push back
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11-21-2014 , 06:21 PM
Weasel,

Yeah, that is pretty much what I was getting at. In order for me to get my knees below the bench, I have to bring my feet up towards my head and push through my toes -- that out to the side **** just isn't ever happening.
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11-21-2014 , 07:22 PM
Oh, so my initial impression of it being a monte problem was correct.
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11-21-2014 , 07:26 PM
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Oh, so my initial impression of it being a monte problem was correct.
I thought that was pretty clear when I directly stated that it was a problem shorts were unlikely to have?
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11-21-2014 , 07:33 PM
Seems like a tall/not that flexible problem. Aidan, you dont agree that it is easier for you butt to come off the bench if your knees are high?
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11-21-2014 , 07:48 PM
Man, I have no desire to get into a discussion about it. I simply made an addendum to my own post about something I do.

Is it theoretically possible for a very tall person to put their feet flat on the floor and drive themselves up the bench? Yes, yes it is. Sure, its going to require ankle mobility, hip mobility or both, and either slightly more forward foot placement, slightly more back or wider.

******less, the point was to cue driving in a different direction and see if that helped. It is essentially unimportant what your legs are doing (though the amount of drive will be different for different positions theoretically).
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11-21-2014 , 07:56 PM
It's great that it doesn't concern you. It's kind of a big deal for some of us, though, which was my only real point. I'll leave this thread to the non-jellydickers again as usual.
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11-21-2014 , 08:01 PM
Monte,

Just tuck your feet. You can get plenty of leg drive without your heels touching the floor. The only reason you'd have to have your heels touching is if you compete in a federation that requires that. The strongest bench presser in the world happens to be a few inches taller than you.



And he's probably going to destroy Spoto's record this weekend at GPA World's (live stream is on now btw for anyone willing to pay 12 dollars to watch it)
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11-21-2014 , 08:15 PM
jessah,

That is what I do. I was just pointing out that driving through the heels isn't possible (or is very tough) for a certain portion of the population. Like I'd need to jack the bench up at least six inches to have a chance.
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11-21-2014 , 08:24 PM
In other news, Amit Sapir (Israeli Jew) just skwatted a new world record of ~720. It's not often that my people set world records so this is exciting. He then attempted a 4th of 732 but didn't get close.
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11-21-2014 , 08:31 PM
Sorry, I didnt realise I was answering a leg drive question you had posed. I'll do better in the future to frame all responses I post in a monte-centric manner.
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11-21-2014 , 08:33 PM
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Sorry, I didnt realise I was answering a leg drive question you had posed. I'll do better in the future to frame all responses I post in a monte-centric manner.
I was adding to your discussion/clarifying a point that applied to me and I thought might be of interest. I'll refrain in the future.
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11-21-2014 , 08:34 PM
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jessah,

That is what I do. I was just pointing out that driving through the heels isn't possible (or is very tough) for a certain portion of the population. Like I'd need to jack the bench up at least six inches to have a chance.
Do you think Kirill is not driving with his heels in that video?
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11-21-2014 , 08:46 PM
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Do you think Kirill is not driving with his heels in that video?
He is, but they're not on the floor, which is a requirement in a number of federations, and his heel drive necessarily can't be drive his shoulders towards the top of the bench, at least not to the degree that heels forward would seem to be able to do.
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11-21-2014 , 08:48 PM
if this is a pledge drive to get me to drop a loaded barbell on my throat it's doing a remarkable job.
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11-21-2014 , 09:03 PM
At least some good was done
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