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05-18-2015 , 08:40 AM
Hm yeah, I can add some shoulder stuff somewhere. Come to think of it I think my gym has a lat raise machine I can use. Luckily I can occupy two racks, so I can set up squats and bench next to each other. Takes me ~30 secs to alter the rack from squat setup to RDL setup, so I think that should work out fine. Thanks for the input!
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05-18-2015 , 05:09 PM
Allright that makes sense.

Doing 4 whole body workouts a week. So far how well do you feel like you can recovery between the workouts? Like are you going into the power workout already with all kinds of muscle soreness?
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05-19-2015 , 02:48 AM
Recovery's been fine so far, just some DOMS. No hampering soreness pre-power-WO.
Different energy systems (to a degree) at work in individual workouts.
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05-19-2015 , 02:49 AM
18.5.2015

Biking
22 kms / 20.8 kmph
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05-19-2015 , 02:51 AM
19.5.2015

UD2.0 Week#1 Summary in numbers

Diet

DayBW CalsProteinCarbsFatFiber
Tue76,8 1339159714625
Wed76,1 1360161655125
Thu75,5 1345160635024
Fri74,9 30592363985810
Sat75,5 37701776515155
Sun75.8 27612073954030
Mon76,2 21871662008030
Avg75,8 22601812635428

Activity

DayActivityRepsTonnageDuration
TueDepletion-WO36514,675 min
WedDepletion-WO38813,375 min
ThuCardio--70 min
FriCardio AM--45 min
FriTension-WO PM1548,675 min
SatGorgeAll day
SunPower-WO847,2120 min
MonCardio--70 min
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05-20-2015 , 02:09 AM
19.5.2015

UD2.0 Week#2 - Depletion-WO #1

Woke up 6 o'clock to be able to leave from work 2:30pm.
That left me a ~1:30 slot to workout, shower and eat between the office slouching, commute and family shenanigans.
Dedication.

Maybe I spoke too soon when I said I'm recovering just fine.
Lowback for sure wasn't fully recovered from Sunday's power-workout today.
I might need to figure out a way to train hamstrings and back w/o RDLs and Yates Rows, too taxing on lowback when done in these rep-ranges, esp. if/when not fully recovered from Sunday.

Goblet-Squat
3x15x25 kg

Bench
5x15x50 kg

SS with

Yates Row
5x15x50 kg

RDL
3x15x50 kg

Seated DB-OHP
2x15x12.5 kg's
1x12*12.5 kg's

SS with

BW Chins
9, 9, 8

DB-LTE
1x15x7.5 kg's

BB-Curls
1x20x25 kg

Planks
2x5x10s

Had to rush it a bit at the end hence only one set for both biceps and triceps.
Actually didn't do the planks at he gym but rather as a part of my nightly SMR-routine a few hours later.

70 mins, 353 reps, ~15k of weight moved.

Last edited by Pummi81; 05-20-2015 at 02:20 AM.
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05-20-2015 , 04:41 AM
If you dump the Yates row you'll prob be fine no? Tons of other ways to do rows after all. No machine rows at your gym? DB rows work too.
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05-20-2015 , 05:13 AM
Ya, might stick to chest-supported dumbbell-rows on both days.

No machines at home LDO. Workplace-gym, maybe, still haven't explored it.
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05-20-2015 , 01:27 PM
20.5.2015

UD2.0 Week#2 - Depletion-WO #2

No issues today, other than my wrists.
They hurt but NBD and they did hurt before UD2 as well.
I think it might be due to frontsquats. Or too much pressing. Or both.
Crossed arms grip and wraps to the rescue I guess.

Goblet-Squat
3x15x25 kg

Incline-Bench
5x15x40 kg

SS with

Chest supported DB Row
5x15x12.5 kg's

RDL
3x15x50 kg

DB-Lateral raises
3x15x5 kg's

SS with

BW Chins
3x9

Side-Planks
2x5x10s (left)
2x5x10s (right)

CGBP
2x15x45 kg

SS with

DB-Hammer-Curls
2x15x12.5 kg's

70 mins, 392 reps, 13.6k of weight moved.
Excellent.

Last edited by Pummi81; 05-20-2015 at 01:34 PM.
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05-20-2015 , 01:29 PM
Also, as I mentioned in Syn's log, had another 4 vials of blood drawn out of me this morning.
Let us find out what's going on with T.
Prolly will get results tomorrow or Friday at the latest.
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05-21-2015 , 09:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pummi81
Health Review

- Bloodpressure: 124:73 (average of 12 readings spread out on 6 consecutive mornings)
- Resting heart rate: 58 (average of ~50 readings spread out on 6 consecutive mornings)

My systolic BP is slightly high, as is my resting heartrate (relative to what it was when I was leaner and did cardio more frequently).
Cleaning up my diet, losing the extra fat and improving my cardiogame should take care of those both I reckon.

Got my lab results:

- B-Leuk = 4,5 (3,4–8,2 E9/l)
- B-Hb = 149 (134–167 g/l)
- B-Trom = 175 (150–360 E9/l)
- B-HbA1c = 33 (20 - 42 mmol/mol (4–6 %))
- fP-Gluk = 4,8 (4,0–6,0 mmol/l)
- P-PSA = 0,8 (<3,3 µg/l)
- P-T4-V = 18,5 (9–19 pmol/l)
- P-TSH = 1,8 (0,5 – 3,6 mU/l)
- fP-Kol = 3,8 (< 5,0 mmol/l)
- FP-Kol-HDL = 0,96 (>1,00 mmol/l)
- fP-Kol-LDL = 2,5 (<3,0 mmol/l)
- fP-Trigly = 0,7 (<2.0 mmol/l)

My armchair doctor assessment:
I probably don't have beetus or prostate cancer.
The only value that is outside of the 'good healthy' -range is my HDL and even that is juuuust slightly below the recommended >1,00 mmol/l.
Cleaning up my diet and losing the extra fat should take care of that I'm sure.
HEALTH Update, 3 months and ~5kg of fat later.

So far so good, imo.

- Bloodpressure: 121:72
- Resting heart rate: 52

Both moving into right direction. Kewl.

Blood-work:

- B-Leuk = 5,3 (3,4–8,2 E9/l)
- B-Hb = 156 (134–167 g/l)
- B-Trom = 184 (150–360 E9/l)
- B-HbA1c = 32 (20 - 42 mmol/mol (4–6 %))
- fP-Gluk = 4,2 (4,0–6,0 mmol/l)
- P-PSA = 0,8 (<3,3 µg/l)
- P-T4-V = 19,4 (9–19 pmol/l)
- P-TSH = 1,5 (0,5 – 3,6 mU/l)
- fP-Kol = 3,7 (< 5,0 mmol/l)
- FP-Kol-HDL = 1,06 (>1,00 mmol/l)
- fP-Kol-LDL = 2,6 (<3,0 mmol/l)
- fP-Trigly = 0,63 (<2.0 mmol/l)

All good. Basic stuff staying same-ish or getting marginally better. HDL is still low-ish but moving into right direction.
Thyroid stuff is kinda interesting since I've been eating at a calorie deficit for over 3 months now and the blood was drawn in the middle of a UD2.0's lowcarb/lowcal phase on top of that.
You'd expect TSH to increase and T4 to drop under these circumstances but the exact opposite is happening.

Last edited by Pummi81; 05-21-2015 at 09:52 AM.
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05-22-2015 , 02:57 AM
21.5.2015

Biking
22 kms / 20.2 kmph
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05-22-2015 , 02:09 PM
22.5.2015

AM - LISS

45 minutes of walking, prob about 4.5 kms again.


PM - UD2.0 Week#2 - Tension-WO

Feeling so weak on Fridays after lowcarbtarding.

Front-Squat
2x6x70 kg

Bench
1x7x80 kg
1x8x75 kg

SS with

Yates Row
2x8x80 kg

RDL
2x8x80 kg

OHP
2x8x50 kg

SS with

Weighted Chins
2x8 @ +5 kg

Ab-Wheel
2x9

Incline-DB-Flies
2x10x15 kg's

SS with

DB-Hammer-Curls
2x10x15 kg's

Let us carb up.
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05-22-2015 , 07:06 PM
Have fun
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05-24-2015 , 06:48 AM


Ugh. So much spaghetti.
1000g of carbs feels like a lot.

My BW seems to not rebound much after carb loads.
75.0 on Friday morning. 75.4 today ie Sunday morning. Maybe I don't drink enough water.
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05-24-2015 , 06:49 AM
ION, got my T etc. lab results yesterday.

Put them and the previous ones into a table because I tables.

DateTotal TFree TEstradiolSHBGLHProlactin
Feb 6th 201566311.41n/an/an/an/a
May 20th 20156359.7816.7532.2**


Units and reference ranges are as follows:

ItemRangeUnit
Total Testosterone (TT)288 - 1096ng/dL
Free Testosterone (FT)6.93 - 20.11pg/mL
Estradiol (E2)<=41.7pg/mL
Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG)10-57nmol/L
Luteinizing Hormone (LH)2.5-7IU/I
Prolactin50 - 300mU/l


On the surface the results might seem bad but I'm not so sure.
It's tough to say how much being about 3.50 months into a cut affects things.
Probably a lot.

My E2 is low, which is a good thing.
And TT, FT and LH are supposed to drop quite a bit when in energy deficit.
And SHBG is supposed to increase quite a bit when in energy deficit.

Just another snapshot in time. Another datapoint.
Gonna get tested again once I'm done with cutting and have been eating around maintenance-ish for a month or two.
I'd like to get tested more frequently but I feel like I'm getting value-robbed as they cost ~€200 a pop.
In comparison, the other (more extensive I'd say) blood work I got done cost ~€40. But that lab doesn't do sex hormone work AFAIK.

**, Prolactin not available through the lab's online results sharing thingamabob. Need to contact someone on the phone or get an appointment. Sumsbishes.

Last edited by Pummi81; 05-24-2015 at 07:19 AM.
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05-25-2015 , 06:46 AM
24.5.2015

Power-workouts are the bestest.

UD2.0 Week#1 - Power-WO

Decided that I want to work in slightly higher rep-ranges after all.
Ie slight modifications here and there compared to last time.

Think this version will be the workout I'll to try to complete on upcoming Sundays. Or even beat, but not too likely.
If anything, it feels like all my presses are about to fall off a cliff soon.

Deadlift
4x150 kg
5x140 kg

Bench
2x5x85 kg

SS with

Yates Row
85 kg
6, 7

Front-Squat
2x4x80 kg

OHP
2x4x60 kg

SS with

Weighted Chins
2x5 @ +20 kg

Standing Calf Raises
1x8x85 kg
1x8x90 kg

Incline Bench
2x6x70 kg

SS with

BB-Curls
2x7x40 kg

CGBP
1x6x75 kg

Weighted Planks
1x5x10s @ +30 kg

My backpack is about to fall apart. Adjustable weighted vest could be nice.
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05-25-2015 , 07:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pummi81
On the surface the results might seem bad but I'm not so sure.
It's tough to say how much being about 3.50 months into a cut affects things.
Probably a lot.

My E2 is low, which is a good thing.
And TT, FT and LH are supposed to drop quite a bit when in energy deficit.
And SHBG is supposed to increase quite a bit when in energy deficit.
About this. Just spent 10 minutes trying to find relevant studies from Pubmed.
Surprisingly tough to find specific studies about it wrt lifting and cutting.

This is (loosely) relevant I guess:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24423293

Quote:
Originally Posted by Recovery of endocrine and inflammatory mediators following an extended energy deficit.
Henning PC1, Scofield DE, Spiering BA, Staab JS, Matheny RW Jr, Smith MA, Bhasin S, Nindl BC.

Abstract

CONTEXT:
Due to current operational requirements, elite soldiers deploy quickly after completing arduous training courses. Therefore, it is imperative that endocrine and inflammatory mediators have fully recovered.

OBJECTIVE:
Our objective was to determine whether a short-term (2-6 wk) recovery period was sufficient to restore endocrine and inflammatory homeostasis after sustained energy deficit.

DESIGN:
Before and immediately after the course, serum concentrations of inflammatory and endocrine markers were taken along with anthropometric measures prior to and immediately after the Army Ranger course. In addition, nine soldiers were assessed between 2 and 6 weeks after the course.

SETTING:
This research occurred in a field setting during an intensive 8-week military training course characterized by high-energy expenditure, energy restriction, and sleep deprivation (U.S. Army Ranger School).

PARTICIPANTS:
Twenty-three male soldiers (23.0 ± 2.8 y; 177.6 ± 7.9 cm; 81.0 ± 9.6 kg, 16.8 ± 3.9% body fat) participated in this study.
INTERVENTIONS:

There were no interventions used in this research.

OUTCOME MEASURES AND RESULTS:
Significant changes occurred in circulating total testosterone (-70%), brain-derived neurotrophic factor (-33%), total IGF-1 (-38.7%), free IGF-1 (-41%), IGF binding protein (IGFBP-6; -23.4%), sex-hormone binding globulin (+46%), thyroid stimulating hormone (+85%), IGFBP-1 (+534.4%), IGFBP-2 (+98.3%), IGFBP-3 (+14.7%), IL-4 (+135%), IL-6 (+217%), and IL-8 (+101%). Significant changes in body mass (-8%), bicep (-14%), forearm (-5%), thigh (-7%), and calf (-2%) circumferences, sum of skinfolds (-52%), and percentage body fat (-54%). All anthropometric, inflammatory, and hormonal values, except T3, were restored to baseline levels within 2-6 weeks after the course.

CONCLUSIONS:
Endocrine markers and anthropometric measures were degraded, and inflammatory mediators increased after an extended energy deficit. A short-term recovery of 2-6 weeks was sufficient to restore these mediators.
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05-26-2015 , 02:22 AM
26.5.2015

UD2.0 Week#2 Summary in numbers

Diet

DayBW CalsProteinCarbsFatFiber
Tue76.4 1348163615024
Wed75.9 1359164635025
Thu75.4 1352154655324
Fri75.0 30262134195524
Sat75.1 37871836505056
Sun75.4 27291883844929
Mon75,5 21421771937325
Avg75.5 22491782625430

So in week#1 my avg morning BW went down 1.1 kg compared to previous week's averages and in week#2 it went down 0.3 kg.
K.

Activity

DayActivityRepsTonnageDuration
TueDepletion-WO35315.075 min
WedDepletion-WO39213.675 min
ThuCardio--70 min
FriCardio AM--45 min
FriTension-WO PM1498,575 min
SatGorgeAll day
SunPower-WO1118.9120 min
MonRest---

Didn't have time to bike on Mon 'cos life.
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05-26-2015 , 02:31 AM
So I have a problem.
I'll be out of town on the weekend which means lifting at home is pretty much out of the question and dunno if I can be arsed to find an alternative gym on the road.
Also doing a proper carb-load on Sat will be close to impossible as I have two parties lined up on that day.

What to do then?
I'm leaning towards doing a condensed 5-day cycle this week.
Depletion from Mon PM to Wed PM, mini-carb-load on Thur and power-WO & maintenance diet on Fri. Whatever on weekend, just enjoying myself but not going hogwild on nomzies. Rest 3 days and be fresh for a new cycle next week.
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05-26-2015 , 03:33 AM
Sounds like a decent alternative

Getting used to the depletion workouts, or are they still rough? This week's #1 was easier than last week's for me, but still hard as balls...500+ reps is nothing to scoff at.
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05-26-2015 , 06:13 AM
Easier in week2 than in week1 for me for sure, despite of moving slightly more weight.

Adaptation is a wonderful thing.
Obv they're still not the most pleasant thing in the world.
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05-26-2015 , 07:22 AM
Very surprising indeed that adaption makes something easier. Someone should study this.
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05-26-2015 , 01:05 PM
^most def.

26.5.2015

AM - LISS
~40 min walk, 4 kms.

A short walk before heading to work.
Now that the weather is finally getting nice-ish, these are actually pretty great. An opportunity to chill and gather your thoughts and such. Sun shining, birds singing, that kinda thing.

PM - UD2.0 Week#3 - Depletion-WO

Goblet-Squat
3x15x25 kg

Incline-Bench
1x12x50 kg (oops, misload)
4x15x40 kg

SS with

Chest supported DB Row
5x15x12.5 kg's

RDL
3x15x50 kg

DB-Lateral raises
3x15x5 kg's

SS with

BW Chins
3x9

CGBP
2x15x45 kg

SS with

DB-Hammer-Curls
2x15x12.5 kg's

Planks
2x5x10s

75 mins, 379 reps, 13.2k of weight moved.
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05-28-2015 , 11:36 AM
27.5.2015

So damn busy, tough to find time to even update.

AM - LISS
45 min walk


PM - UD2.0 Week#3 - Tension-WO

Front-Squat
2x6x70 kg

Bench
2x8x75 kg

SS with

Yates Row
2x8x80 kg

RDL
2x8x80 kg

OHP
2x8x50 kg

SS with

Weighted Chins
2x8 @ +5 kg

Ab-Wheel
2x9

Incline-DB-Flyes
2x10x15 kg's

SS with

DB-Hammer-Curls
2x10x15 kg's

Standing-Single-Arm-DB-Triceps-Extension
2x10x10 kg (each side)

Such a fancy exercise.

80 mins, 190 reps, 9.0k of weight moved.

Ended up carbing up yesterday night and today for slightly below 700 g's. Probably a bit too much.
Slightly too much fat too 'cos salmon. And tzatziki.
No ragrets.
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