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When benching, if I arch my back too much, my lower back doesn't feel good on the drive up. Standard, or doing something wrong? I see people benching with ridiculous arches in vids, and mine is definitely way smaller before I start to feel some pain.

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11-27-2011 , 11:30 PM

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00Snitch

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Originally Posted by Soulman

I can't really imagine what went through that doc's head. Did he just mean how did you stop being a lazy lardass, i.e. show some mental fortitude?

lol'd

But seriously, megga 'grats Harball. People just need to realise AINT NUTTIN TO IT BUT TO DO IT.

I know we all lol about it, but Ronnie actually really hit the nail on the head with this one imo.

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11-28-2011 , 12:36 AM

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Hardball47

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Originally Posted by nuclear500

A simple cheeseburger isn't going to throw you off. I don't think its like alcoholism, but maybe I'm wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSbpyxFC24k

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch

Thanks. This is one of those times where being stubborn really helps.

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11-28-2011 , 04:28 AM

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Soulman

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Originally Posted by 00Snitch

But seriously, megga 'grats Harball. People just need to realise AINT NUTTIN TO IT BUT TO DO IT.

I know we all lol about it, but Ronnie actually really hit the nail on the head with this one imo.

Right on. Well done Hardball (for some reason I've always read your name as 'Hairball' until now, name change imo).

Quitting smoking was a walk in the park once I nutted up and decided to just do it. No lame patches or anything.

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11-28-2011 , 05:58 AM

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Pummi81

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I'm starting the week#3 of SS tomorrow and the idea is to start incorporating power cleans.

I've read SS-book and watched SS-dvd but any more tips/advice on incorporating cleans?

Also, I prolly should go and by some bumpers (maybe a pair of 5kg's and 10kg's?)
Currently my 20kg plates are the only plates w official diameter. so the minimum weight I can use is bar+pair of 20kg's iron-cast rubbercoated plates and there's no way in hell I can clean that.

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11-28-2011 , 06:18 AM

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ben-rhyno

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Is squat strength inversely proportional to weight loss? I.e. I have now lost 5.5kg since the start of training properly 8 weeks ago, and have gained new PR's on deadlift, bench and push press, but my squat PR is almost out of sight. Is this a mental thing?

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11-28-2011 , 06:56 AM

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Soulman

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Originally Posted by Pummi81

Also, I prolly should go and by some bumpers (maybe a pair of 5kg's and 10kg's?)
Currently my 20kg plates are the only plates w official diameter. so the minimum weight I can use is bar+pair of 20kg's iron-cast rubbercoated plates and there's no way in hell I can clean that.

As someone who doesn't power clean at all, I believe the advice is to start with hang cleans first. You don't need bumpers for that, or for a long while anyway.

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11-28-2011 , 07:44 AM

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00Snitch

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Yeah, what SM said - By all means get your bumpers, but it's no rush. Learning from hang is the right way to do it.

This vid is pretty good instruction.

http://californiastrength.com/videos...video-part-one

There is also a part 2 and 3 in that series.

This vid teaches the full clean but basically uses a powerclean as a progression to full clean.

For the record (but for not really good reason), I say learn the full clean anyway.

It takes heaps of practice (I'm still terrible). Do heaps and heaps of reps with light weight.

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11-28-2011 , 07:55 AM

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00Snitch

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Originally Posted by ben-rhyno

It's not surprising that your squat suffers when you are losing weight (congrats on the progress btw

) as you are eating a deficit.

That said, there are lots of things that may explain your situation. This could include:

- Maybe squatting deeper?
- dead/bench/press were far behind your squat relatively
- You made some form improvements in dead/bench/press
- Have 'broken' something in your squat form (it can happen)

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11-28-2011 , 08:07 AM

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Pummi81

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All righty. I guess I'm not in a rush to get dem bumpers then.
One thing though, If I were to get them right away they'd surve another purpose as well i.e. providing me a way to do lighter DL sets.
60kg DL is still somewhat heavy for me and if I could practice DL form / warm-up w lighter weight, that might be good.

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11-28-2011 , 08:10 AM

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00Snitch

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Yeah, for sure. I mean, if cash isn't a problem and you've got somewhere easy to go buy them, by all means go get them. It's not like they won't be useful.

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11-28-2011 , 08:10 AM

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Soulman

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If you want to splash the cash, that's a practical reason to get them as well. Although you won't be needing them for DL warm-ups in a month or so.

Last edited by Soulman; 11-28-2011 at 08:10 AM. Reason: I has a slow but sturdy Norwegian pony

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11-28-2011 , 08:13 AM

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00Snitch

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Although the 5kg ones probably aren't really necessary. I don't think you will ever be cleaning 30kg from the floor...

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11-28-2011 , 08:23 AM

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Pummi81

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Okay, maybe I'll just go and buy a pair of 10kg's then.
I guess I can safely mix smaller (1,25kg-5kg?) standard plates with the 10kg bumpers and drop the bar w/o breaking anything?

Last edited by Pummi81; 11-28-2011 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Also, Soulman, you and your ponies...:)

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11-28-2011 , 08:28 AM

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00Snitch

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Correct... at least I don't see a problem with doing that...

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11-28-2011 , 08:39 AM

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DWarrior

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Yeah, the biggest problem with bumpers is they're ****ing expensive. But 10kgs might also become useful later if you want to learn to snatch (part of ss3 from what I read)

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11-28-2011 , 08:42 AM

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Pummi81

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All right, then I'll be good to go until I can power clean more than 60kgs i.e. sometime in 2015

I hope poker is still going strong then so I can afford to buy a pair of 20kg's.

EDIT: DWarrior, yup, they aren't too cheap. So far I've only found 2 places selling them in Finland.
A pair of 10kg's seem to cost ~110€ (or like a gazillion of USD)

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11-28-2011 , 12:29 PM

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Hardball47

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Originally Posted by Soulman

Thanks, but I think you deserve more credit for ditching the cigarettes. That's a lot of tougher than losing weight.

Maybe all of this quick adaptation is personality-based. You keep hearing about things like "addictive personalities" and whatever.

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11-28-2011 , 12:31 PM

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Aidan

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Im going on holiday for a month and will likely only have sporadic access to a gym. Does anyone have any good sources for exercises or tips for losing the least amount of progress over the time?

I was thinking about doing stuff with sandbags or similar, trying to do chins as much as possible, possibly some sort of improvised sled drag. Any further advice appreciated. Will be staying at my parents place, so have access to "stuff".

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11-28-2011 , 12:40 PM

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DWarrior

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Soulman don't read this. Smoking related.

Spoiler:

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11-28-2011 , 01:04 PM

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Aidan

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No, it is not shown to be carcinogenic by itself. However, it does have circulatory effects (increases bloodpressure, also increases release of cholesterol into the blood), and of course it has CNS effects. A large study also showed nicotine alone increased the risk of birth defects in pregnant women. On the other side, it does have some effect in reducing the likelihood of breast cancer in some genotypes, as well as potential as a treatment for some types of mental illness, and can boost attention span in ADHD patients.

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11-28-2011 , 01:20 PM

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trontron

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aidan, try bodyweight workouts. never gymless by ross enamait is a good starting source. also have a look @ http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/85...ferrerid=59859

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11-28-2011 , 01:40 PM

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Soulman

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Originally Posted by Hardball47

Pretty sure it's easier to quit smoking than lose a bunch of weight like that - and then changing your life style permanently. I dunno. All about the WIM anyhow (plus see below).

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Originally Posted by DWarrior

Soulman don't read this. Smoking related.

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Heh, I even have a cig at parties every now and then now, doesn't bother me at all. I have mild asthma though, so I had all the motivation I needed.

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11-28-2011 , 04:40 PM

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JL514

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Originally Posted by DWarrior

Is it pain, or uncomfortable-ness?

I bench with a moderate arch and I've never experience back pain during the lift. The arch actually helps my entire body stay tighter and more involved with the lift.

If it's painful then don't arch that much. IIRC, a deep arch isn't required for bench, just to reach max potential.

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