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07-19-2010 , 02:37 PM
Has anyone had a spinal adjustment done by a chiro? I can feel one vertebra sticking out a bit more than others in my lower back and I'm wondering if it may be some spinal misalignment. I imagine if I do have some misalignment, doing lifts will only compress and make it worse. btw, I generally don't feel back pain or anything, but after I do SS and do hamstring stretching (bending down to my legs), I can feel a faint tingle in my back, but I wouldn't describe it as pain. I don't have any range of motion problems (I can almost touch my knuckles to the floor with my legs straight, can do trunk rotations pretty well, can turn my head all the way to the side).

I remember I had an adjustment done many years ago as a kid, and it didn't feel like a big deal and there was no soreness or anything the next day, so if it's relatively simple and safe, maybe I should have it done again just in case?

I'd like to know if it's worth it for my case, and if so would there be any recovery time that would prevent me from doing either SS or body weight athletic training that involves some twisting around? How many sessions are standard (I remember only 1)? And is a price range of $40-$150 per session before insurance accurate?
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07-19-2010 , 02:39 PM
Rip specifically (and constantly) recommends weighted sit-ups for the ab-lovers out there. Whether or not this is a good exercise is up to your imagination. But to say that he thinks that the barbell lifts are enough for people concerned with their abs is flat out wrong.
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07-19-2010 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DWarrior
Has anyone had a spinal adjustment done by a chiro? I can feel one vertebra sticking out a bit more than others in my lower back and I'm wondering if it may be some spinal misalignment. I imagine if I do have some misalignment, doing lifts will only compress and make it worse. btw, I generally don't feel back pain or anything, but after I do SS and do hamstring stretching (bending down to my legs), I can feel a faint tingle in my back, but I wouldn't describe it as pain. I don't have any range of motion problems (I can almost touch my knuckles to the floor with my legs straight, can do trunk rotations pretty well, can turn my head all the way to the side).

I remember I had an adjustment done many years ago as a kid, and it didn't feel like a big deal and there was no soreness or anything the next day, so if it's relatively simple and safe, maybe I should have it done again just in case?

I'd like to know if it's worth it for my case, and if so would there be any recovery time that would prevent me from doing either SS or body weight athletic training that involves some twisting around? How many sessions are standard (I remember only 1)? And is a price range of $40-$150 per session before insurance accurate?
lol at thinking that having some guy yanking on your back for $40 is safe and reasonable

quackery
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07-19-2010 , 03:24 PM
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Rip specifically (and constantly) recommends weighted sit-ups for the ab-lovers out there. Whether or not this is a good exercise is up to your imagination. But to say that he thinks that the barbell lifts are enough for people concerned with their abs is flat out wrong.
I can't remember having seen him recommend weighted sit-ups for aesthetic reasons, but if he has then I retract my statements and stand shame-faced in front of you all.

There is no way I'm doing more than that anyway...
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07-19-2010 , 03:40 PM
I am sure there are good chiropractors or whatever but since they don't have a medical degree I have always thought they must be quacks in general.
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07-19-2010 , 03:48 PM
super newb question:

How do you all measure your body fat %. I have looked into going to a lab where they have a Bod Pod, but also just considering doing the old tape measure method?

How do you all measure this?
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07-19-2010 , 03:50 PM
I love my chiro and he has helped me many many times recover from injuries. As always, ymmv.
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07-19-2010 , 03:54 PM
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super newb question:

How do you all measure your body fat %. I have looked into going to a lab where they have a Bod Pod, but also just considering doing the old tape measure method?

How do you all measure this?
I always just use (have someone use) calipers.
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07-19-2010 , 04:10 PM
Not saying there aren't good ones. But just looking for referrals and expecting someone to hammer on your spine without X-rays/MRIs whatever leaves me unsure who's dumber.
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07-19-2010 , 04:14 PM
Agree.
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07-19-2010 , 05:41 PM
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Not saying there aren't good ones. But just looking for referrals and expecting someone to hammer on your spine without X-rays/MRIs whatever leaves me unsure who's dumber.
I don't think I'll go this far (being a student, I can't just order MRIs because I feel like it). I don't have any injuries, and I only feel the lumbar bone with my hand if I bend forward. I've never been to a chiro on my own volition, so I have no clue how they work.

Thanks for the info.
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07-19-2010 , 05:56 PM
I think there is a professional organization of chiros who have pretty high standards; plus it's not like the degree is obtainable by mail or anything. If the chiro is a person who genuinely gives a **** about medical science, he/she will know what is up. If not, the person will be an idiot. Note that this is actually no damn different than visiting a general practitioner; in fact, GPs might be less qualified to offer medical advice on average when compared to chiros.

This is all anecdotal as I despise chiros and doctors and anyone in the medical profession for the most part, so take it for what it's worth (not much).
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07-19-2010 , 06:30 PM
hey health and fitness people! first post here so take it easy on me =)

i really need to get back in shape (read: lose weight and gain some muscles) i noticed; i'll be travelling for a month starting tomorrow but already planning on doing some propbets etc. to get me motivated after that and was wondering what would be realistic to do...
im full time poker player, have decent amount of spare time, i think im around 1m83 and somewhere 100-105kg (not sure on that though, could be off), so yeah, def must lose some weight =)
live in the UK, have a gym/pool/sauna/jacuzzi/etc. at my disposal on top floor (hidden brag not so hidden) and tbh, i never use it lol (but planning on, just pointing this out so i can easily do anything every day)
i'll be back somewhere end of august and flying back to belgium around xmas i guess, so basically i have 4 months to get myself in somewhat of shape

not looking to really push it (this means taking a lot of supplements or super strict diets though obv my eating habbits will have to change as well) but definitly want to go for it as long as i still enjoy living basically (i hope you understand what i mean by this)

what would be realistic in these 4 months? obv talking about losing weight for the propbet that i would have with it? any info already on how to start would be appreciated though i still have a month to figure out what i wanna do (tbh, im pretty pumped about swimming and can easily do this every day pretty much though dont know if it's good for my body)


also, same question kind of for my roommate, but other way around
he's 1m65 and weighs 52kg or something and wants to put on weight/muscle mass

hope this all makes somewhat sense, thanks in advance
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07-19-2010 , 07:03 PM
Your post is too vague. Be a bit more specific. Also losing weight and gaining muscle simultaneously is not really possible.

You should read the FAQ.
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07-19-2010 , 07:18 PM
figured that much
thanks for quick reply though

was reading through faq already and it's HUGE; probably a lot of irrelevant info for me as well, but i have a month or so to read it through i guess =)
will be back later with more specific questions then, thx a ton

one question for now though: any topics/comments on swimming in this forum? all i got from the faq so far was a link to totalimmersion.net
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07-19-2010 , 07:23 PM
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hey health and fitness people! first post here so take it easy on me =)
Raaaaarrrrrr!!!! Pity encourages teh fat

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what would be realistic in these 4 months? obv talking about losing weight for the propbet that i would have with it? any info already on how to start would be appreciated though i still have a month to figure out what i wanna do (tbh, im pretty pumped about swimming and can easily do this every day pretty much though dont know if it's good for my body)
You could make a LOT of improvement in 4 months of good lifting and/or dietary mindfulness imo. The real trick is just to start and don't procrastinate and do a non ******ed gym programme.

I had almost identical height/weight stats as you and had a bit of extra padding 4 months ago and through very simple changes in my diet (much less dairy, smaller carb portions. For you maybe different though) I managed to lose over 30lbs in that time and I haz the darn sexy right now
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07-19-2010 , 07:31 PM
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Raaaaarrrrrr!!!! Pity encourages teh fat
thank you for calling me like that (no sarcasm), because i need to realize thats what i am basically =)
i feel good about myself though, dont have any complexes or anything, but really wanna get this started

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You could make a LOT of improvement in 4 months of good lifting and/or dietary mindfulness imo. The real trick is just to start and don't procrastinate and do a non ******ed gym programme.

I had almost identical height/weight stats as you and had a bit of extra padding 4 months ago and through very simple changes in my diet (much less dairy, smaller carb portions. For you maybe different though) I managed to lose over 30lbs in that time and I haz the darn sexy right now
thats great to hear, thanks for that too

i know damn too well that doing something you dont like will usually result in failure... played volleyball for 8.5 years or smth and was really fun and kept my weight down; doing things "because you have to do them" will obv result in failure most of the time and thats why my main focus would be swimming to start with and see where it goes from there, though i know **** about 99% of all the things you people talk about in here atm obv

you guys already, hope to learn a lot here
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07-19-2010 , 07:44 PM
A good start would be not turning into a mess whilst travelling. Maybe you'll be doing a lot of walking/climbing etc on your trip? Try to eat fresh local foods etc and not fast food. Even if you don't 'start' you can start.
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07-19-2010 , 08:06 PM
Thx for the tip, the month away is going back to homecountry to meet up with some friends and family though, so basically bbq's, parties, festivals which wont do me any good (though i basically eat whatever i want atm and am pretty stable weight-wise so i dont think i will put up a lot, if anything)

I'll definitly try and see what I can do to eat healthier in between though, just to see how it works for me and what I'm willing to eat/not eat a lot of. I'll be staying at parents house and they live in pretty small town and getting fresh vegetables/fruit/bread/etc. is all within a 2 minute walk away so that shouldn't be the problem. Big fan of strawberries, grapes, etc. so i'll focus on that (read: small fruits/vegetables you can easily eat while doing something else ^^)

lol @ all my random rambling in here though, thx a bunch for all the replies once again, flying off in couple of hours

edit: belgium not really the country for climbing/walking really maybe a couple of days at the small strip of beach would be nice if the wheather allows it, great idea from you!
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07-19-2010 , 08:09 PM
Will you have gym access? Weights + BBQ stuff etc = +EV.
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07-19-2010 , 08:15 PM
over here i have it 24/7 basically, can look for it in hometown as well i guess if it's really that good for me
never heard of weights+bbq=ev+ tbh, learn something new every day
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07-19-2010 , 08:17 PM
If your going to be consuming a lot of that food anyway, lifting weights will be very beneficial to your body composition.
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07-19-2010 , 08:19 PM
There's probably loads of easy changes/substitutions you can make to your diet. Diet soda for normal soda, a bit less candy/junk.

One of the best resources in the FAQ will be Lyle McDonalds bodyrecomposition website, articles and forums imo. He's published a few very good diet books and ebooks. His Guide to Flexible Dieting is excellent.
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07-19-2010 , 09:08 PM
wrt chrio...

When I went looking for a chiro, I read a bunch of their web-pages, found one who had treated and/or done reasearch on people in my situation and had lots of letters after her name... well, she's got a bachelor of chiropractic science and a masters of chiro... member of the australian chiropractic association (or something), apparently has a paper published on treating lower back problems (I guess if I cared enough I should go find this...), commonly treats for sports injuries (specifically mentions rugby)...

So yeah, I say (like anything), do some research and see what you can find...
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07-19-2010 , 09:18 PM
Weird Question:

I can flat dumbbell press 45Kg/99lbs x 3 and bench press 100kg x 3. My mate can bench the same as me but can only dumbbell press around 37.5kg x 3. I'm kind of confused. Does this mean his dumbbell press is lagging or my dumbbell press has excelled or my bench press is **** or what?
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