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isnt this a function of the intensity? you can go very hard on an elliptical. at least i can (and have.) or maybe it just felt that way, tho my heart rate confirmed it.

This falls squarely under Exercise Science Tenet #2: Some things work better than others.

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03-15-2010 , 07:23 PM

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Ra_Z_Boy

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i fail to see how the elliptical is any worse than running or biking.

Maybe we should just invent a pacemaker like device that increase humans heart rate into the target zone. Put it on 3 times a week who needs exercise?

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03-15-2010 , 07:26 PM

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Victor

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Maybe we should just invent a pacemaker like device that increase humans heart rate into the target zone. Put it on 3 times a week who needs exercise?

oh cmon, this is bs and you know it.

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03-15-2010 , 07:30 PM

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Maybe we should just invent a pacemaker like device that increase humans heart rate into the target zone. Put it on 3 times a week who needs exercise?

We have... it's called cocaine.

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03-15-2010 , 08:22 PM

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JammyDodga

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So if you want to dramatically increase cardio fitness, do you need to eat a surplus too? What actually physically happens when you become fitter? i.e. if your VO2 max increases?

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03-15-2010 , 08:35 PM

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KhalynYohrk

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Just moved in w some friends and they have a weiderpro 265 bench.

There are;

2 - 35's
2 - 25's
2 - 10's
4 - 5's
2 - 2.5's

With a bar.

Not sure how helpful having these around will be.

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03-15-2010 , 08:38 PM

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Nottom

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OK, so I am eating at a ridiculous deficit for purely monetary reasons. I'm trying to get in plenty of protein but I don't always get there. I will be scaling back my SS workouts to twice a week (skipped today's workout) for the rest of the month because on Saturday I was absolutely destroyed by my squats.

If I insist on maintaining said deficit what should I do to minimize the impact on my workouts? I am under the impression that it involves planning my pre-workout food intake a little more carefully, but can anyone give me anymore detail than that?

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03-15-2010 , 08:45 PM

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OK, so I am eating at a ridiculous deficit for purely monetary reasons.

:lolgreatdepressionaments?

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03-15-2010 , 09:28 PM

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Claunchy

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wtf, food is cheap. and important. there has to be something far more frivolous you can cut out.

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03-16-2010 , 02:21 AM

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Quick one: Which hand should be underhand in the mixed grip when deadlifting? I was doing 225 today and after the fourth one my grip deteriorated to the point where I can't do the fifth but then I used a mixed and was able to. I put my right hand, my dominant hand, as the under if that matters but didn't try with my left.

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03-16-2010 , 02:37 AM

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Doesn't really matter which is pronated, but it's a good suggestion to alternate which hand is pronated every time you deadlift.

Last edited by skunkworks; 03-16-2010 at 02:38 AM. Reason: To keep **** balanced

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03-16-2010 , 03:14 AM

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theblackkeys

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I always have my left arm as the underhand grip.

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03-16-2010 , 03:48 AM

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Halstad

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Doesn't really matter which is pronated, but it's a good suggestion to alternate which hand is pronated every time you deadlift.

This. I alternate, but its always easier when my right (dominant) hand is the underhand grip.

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03-16-2010 , 04:33 AM

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kitaristi0

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What's the best way to get more fiber in your diet? I bought some Kellogg's All Bran but it tastes like ****. Supplements?

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03-16-2010 , 04:45 AM

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ugh I used to have a bowl or 2 of Kashi go lean crunch cereal (high in fiber) back in the day since my wife used to buy it. I always felt like death until I shat out that crap, then I felt like I was recovering from an intense vomiting session after.

Am I alone here?

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03-16-2010 , 04:54 AM

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toothy

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Anyone got some snack suggestions that I can take with me to uni? So far Im stuck at milk and scroggin (trail mix).

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03-16-2010 , 05:39 AM

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wat

tbk is married?

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03-16-2010 , 06:34 AM

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Nottom

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wtf, food is cheap. and important. there has to be something far more frivolous you can cut out.

No, I'm not poor (well not that poor). I just want to win $$$s from my coworkers.

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03-16-2010 , 06:36 AM

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Nottom

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What's the best way to get more fiber in your diet? I bought some Kellogg's All Bran but it tastes like ****. Supplements?

Green vegetables, oatmeal.

I also eat Arnold Double Fiber bread. It's pretty good but unless you are Themp you can't really live off the stuff.

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03-16-2010 , 09:15 AM

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There are a couple of approaches to this- you can take the OCD approach of calculating macros for bodyweight, etc as described here:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...postcount=3088

Or, and I prefer this, just focus on bracketing (before and after) your lifts with P+C solid meals or liquid supplements. Solid food would generally be ingested earlier in the "pre" component than liquid.

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03-16-2010 , 10:35 AM

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How much earlier are we talking? I'm also on Biggest Loser competition at work, and after the first workout since starting it, I'm much more sore than I usually am.

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03-16-2010 , 10:37 AM

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How much earlier are we talking? I'm also on Biggest Loser competition at work, and after the first workout since starting it, I'm much more sore than I usually am.

How long does the competition last? If it's not too long and it's worth it, do a PSMF-type diet. Otherwise do a 25%ish deficit thing and scale down your workouts.

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03-16-2010 , 11:02 AM

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It's three months. Started on Friday. I think I'm just going to have to come to the realization that I'm going to do much less volume/intensity than I'm used to, and live with a slight strength/muscle loss for a while.

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03-16-2010 , 11:08 AM

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Less volume will make you retain more strength since your recovery won't be as affected. Like do 2x5 or 3x3 instead of 3x5. You could do some funky calorie partitioning if you want to minimize strength loss (like IF).

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03-16-2010 , 11:24 AM

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Willie, I have that or something similar sometimes. It's usually a strained muscle because of lol form with an awkward weight. I used to just rest and wait it out, but ibuprofen speeds up the process as well. Never tried any other relaxants, so can't recommend anything else.

The latest one was a couple days ago. I def strained my back snowboarding, and then played hockey the next day. My back started bothering me that night to the point of discomfort while standing. The next day was my workout that I didn't want to skip. Took 4 advils 4 hours prior, good to go.

disclaimer... taking copious amounts of ibuprofen can lead to ulcers and other bad ****. this is probably not the best way to "fix" a problem, seems like you are just masking the pain.

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