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09-23-2014 , 01:20 PM
Crap. I just bought some oikos cuz it was the only full fat option.
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09-23-2014 , 01:24 PM
Fage4lyfe

The 0% is quite good, and the 2% tastes much, much better and creamier than Oikos. It also tastes like actual Greek yogurt as opposed to the congealed bird **** that I just forced down.
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09-23-2014 , 01:46 PM
Here we go with more anecdotes instead of actual expertise, but I was in a similar situation. My knees caved horribly. If I did manage to keep them out, you could see them shaking from the effort. Any heavy reps caused me to shift my weight on the ascent to my stronger right leg.

The thing that I feel helped me was lots of reps throughout the full weight range. When doing light weight, I did higher rep sets. And when I did weights heavy enough to bring out the asymmetry, I never did more than 3 rep sets. Mostly dubs and singles.

That let me focus on making modifications. Whereas I feel like trying to rep out what are already challenging weights just defeats the purpose if you're trying to fix form leaks. Most or all of your focus is already being devoted to not failing the set. Even though I sucked up my pride and dropped my starting weight to 165, I didn't lose the asymmetry when I was doing SS/GSLP. I probably made it worse.

I like Chobani. Fage is perfect. Don't think I've ever eaten Oikos. If I did, I blocked it from my memory.
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09-23-2014 , 02:36 PM
I agree that near max effort sets haven't done much to fix my imbalances (far from it). I think getting a lot of reps in at relatively low weight will hopefully help my ingrain correct motor patterns, but I've still got to find a way to figure out how to keep the bar over mid foot when I squat, otherwise I'll probably just forever keep the weight around 225 and just do a bunch of sets, or do doubles at higher weight, or something.
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09-23-2014 , 03:09 PM
What helped me more than anything was when I was doing lowish weight (~60%1RM) for 5 sets of 10 reps after my heavy sets. I always had better form on these reps (obv) but because I had better form I was using slightly different muscles than during my heavy sets. For you it sounds like you could do 155x10x5 with shorter breaks after you squat heavy. It might take you 15 minutes total but would be really beneficial I think.
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09-23-2014 , 03:21 PM
BTM,

Yeah, bolting on BBB sets afterwards wouldn't be a bad idea to get additional volume, but at this point I just want to make sure I get in a lot of high quality reps with a short enough rest period that there's still a bit of intensity there. Depends on what my ultimate goal ends up being, which remains to be seen.
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09-23-2014 , 03:27 PM
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BTM,

Yeah, bolting on BBB sets afterwards wouldn't be a bad idea to get additional volume, but at this point I just want to make sure I get in a lot of high quality reps with a short enough rest period that there's still a bit of intensity there. Depends on what my ultimate goal ends up being, which remains to be seen.
When i was doing them the first couple sets were easy while the last couple were really hard. I found that squatting at the low weight trained me to hit depth, and to lean back into my heels more (since I was more quad dominant back then) for a more balanced squat. Your squats are good so adding volume probably can't hurt.
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09-24-2014 , 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
I agree that near max effort sets haven't done much to fix my imbalances (far from it). I think getting a lot of reps in at relatively low weight will hopefully help my ingrain correct motor patterns, but I've still got to find a way to figure out how to keep the bar over mid foot when I squat, otherwise I'll probably just forever keep the weight around 225 and just do a bunch of sets, or do doubles at higher weight, or something.
Before you do that, try doing frontsquats only for a month or three and see what happens
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09-24-2014 , 08:49 AM
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Before you do that, try doing frontsquats only for a month or three and see what happens
I also like this idea a lot! Front squats force you to stay back in your heels more since there's only so far you can lean forward. The better you get at front squats the better you get at controlling the bar over midfoot. Fact.
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09-24-2014 , 01:19 PM
I may very well end up doing that; we'll see.

9/24
60 mins treadmill @ 5.4 = 5.39 miles
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09-24-2014 , 01:29 PM
Have you read SS?
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09-24-2014 , 01:31 PM
Yes.
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09-24-2014 , 01:46 PM
Recently I mean.
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09-24-2014 , 01:51 PM
I know what you meant, and I have; I bought the third edition last week and read the squat part twice. Tried some stuff and still having trouble keeping the bar over midfoot, especially at workset and near workset weight. Combine that with some of the nagging issues I've let go over the last few months, I think doing a lot of reps at a weight that allows me to have those reps be high quality is what I need now, especially since I'm cutting. Maybe doing a lot of front squats in a few months too. Not sure, just frustrated/discouraged and care more about getting a 4 wheel deadlift than anything else anyway. Have a nice pleasing DOMS in the adductors from the good girl machine and working very hard on keeping my knees out, so it's a start.
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09-24-2014 , 04:29 PM
Monte, with your newish mobility issues I'd pay whatever it cost for a few visits + a few months programming from Robertson/IFAST. Well, I mean, you should pay it. But yeah. Do that.
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09-24-2014 , 05:39 PM
I've been considering it for sure; the only problem is it's kind of a long drive and I don't really have the time for that . There are distance training packages, which would seem kind of weird, but I guess I could see if I could go in for an initial consult and then just send them videos periodically.

It'd be worth it just to find out if there were any hip related things I should be doing, honestly.
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09-24-2014 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Montecore
I know what you meant, and I have; I bought the third edition last week and read the squat part twice. Tried some stuff and still having trouble keeping the bar over midfoot, especially at workset and near workset weight.
Hmmm, I don't buy it. There is no sign of this in your log in the past week. No sign of experimentation either. Are you lying to the king of squats?? #forumpolice
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09-24-2014 , 09:29 PM
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Hmmm, I don't buy it. There is no sign of this in your log in the past week. No sign of experimentation either. Are you lying to the king of squats?? #forumpolice
No. He mentioned it before, I bought it and read it. Also blow me.
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09-24-2014 , 10:29 PM
Hey hey
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09-24-2014 , 10:46 PM
Read it like how busteaux "read it"?

Also loled at forum police
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09-24-2014 , 10:55 PM
Monte hasn't jumped on anyone he can with basic squat tips from SS, therefore I challenge anyone who says he read it like I did.
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09-24-2014 , 10:57 PM
I have the self awareness not to bother most people save total novices with my squat "advice"
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09-25-2014 , 08:38 AM
Woke up approximately 20 times last night due to cripplingly painful adductor DOMS. I think I may have found a weak point, but unfortunately I won't be able to use that information, since I am definitely going to die.
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09-25-2014 , 08:46 AM
Sounds like you used the bad girl machine.
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09-25-2014 , 12:27 PM
Weight this morning: 192.0. Still fat. Upper body looking decent except for the patented montesingleabTM (even with visible serrati there's still barely visible ab muscles). Time to DFII circa late 2013 physique: 5 years + full Cenegenics program. The only real good news is that the Fage was back; got two containers so there aren't any worries for tomorrow. Rage subsiding.

9/25
OHP (5s realization, 160 working max)
10x45, 5x75, 3x95, 2x115, 1x120, 1x130
8x135

Superset A:
DB Incline Bench: 4x12x60
DB Row (light): 4x10x75

Superset B:
Facepulls: 4x15x40
Skullcrushers: 4x12x65

Superset C:
Hammer Curl: 4x15x25
DB Flyes: 4x15x20

8 was about what I thought I'd get for press, so I guess I'm ok with it given I've lost a fair bit of strength during the baby cut. Perhaps forgetting my PWO BCAAs cost me a rep; we'll never know. Will bump up the working max to 165 for the 3s cycle and see how it goes.
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