#anthromorphopologicalweakness trending again

Last night at the gym there was a guy benching alone. Somewhat regular, he was familiar. The weights irrelevant, stronger then me - he had clips on but no pins set. Out of the corner of my eye I see the bar stop moving and his face start getting uber-red.

I felt genuine fear of failure and rushed over and didn't lift up and rack, but removed about 15-20lbs from it. The bars path was also up under the hooks, so even if he couldn't lock it out, he couldn't fail it back into the hooks. There's grinding and then there's no movement - this guy either had the slowest grind I've ever seen, or the bar was done moving.

He thanked me, but I still felt weird about doing it. Better safe and sorry then calling an ambulance when the 225+ smashes his face or throat I guess -- if there were pins or no clips I wouldn't have done it - a guys gotta learn how to fail either by dipping and dropping or hitting the pins. I never thought I'd do something like that.

POW, exceptions don't disprove rules.

Become a mod, then ban me

pow,

Fair. You alo go ATG high bar, so shifting the numbers down a bit is fine. I just perused your log a bit. You started off doing a lot of xfit, so there's that, as well.

In my case and in some others (halfslant), I def put emphasis on the squat over all others. So I probably shaded the #s high. But still, it's no magic to get a 315 squat. Squat. Eat. Sleep. If you don't want to specialize it even just for a few months, and conditioning and other lifts are given the same priority, then obv progress must slow down.

I should just let this die... but...

This.

Yeah, I was more or less referring to this line in my original post.

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Other random thoughts...

Also agree that the "old" posters were naive wrt to what was possible naturally for "casual" amd/or non-competitive lifters (which the vast majority of the forum is).

I more or less agree with KC's squat "standards" there. I think everyone gets to that 315 squat with little trouble and then bounces up and down beteen the 315 and 365 level with short trips back below 315 because <insert reason> and maybe the odd 1RM up toward 400.

Could be #anthromorphopologicalweakness or it could be something else, just saying it's not as easy as GSLPing or running SS for a couple months for certain people and boom, you're at 315. Some people struggle to get there.

ETA: @ Aidan

QB,
Bovada is great. Easy to get money off via check. Deposit via Visa.
Lots of PLO. Decent amount of LHE and o8/plo8.

I'm not a special snowflake. There are others that suffer my affliction, Monte being the most conspicuous. As much as we jazz him about being a giant vag, he was, up until late last year, fairly consistent in his workouts, even though he was on a cut, and then he quit lifting altogether...oh never mind, there's still me.

Yeh, the ATG+high bar perhaps merits a small downward shift, although I don't know how much. The xfitting is not so much an issue since I basically stopped doing that around February or so of last year.

I'm prioritizing it atm. I guess I'll see how that affects things, but it's been a royal struggle for me to even get a 1.3xBW squat, which is quite sad really.

Fair enough. Bovada it is. Thanks BK and Nuggetz. And I like I said, no need to worry about withdrawals for me. As long as easy to get it on, I am good.

I actually used to play Bodog a lot WAY back in the day. They had a pretty juicy 20-40 LHE that a lot of the good multitabling pros would avoid because the software sucked so bad and HUDs didn't work.

This was actually before I got into sportsbetting so never took advantage of that part of the software before, which was probably a good thing fo rme.

**** you.

If you can't understand why it's different for the talls, I don't know what to tell you.

In before cha comes in and posts a video of a world class lifter who squats over 2x BW.

I DON'T GIVE A **** OLD MAN

Does Bovada do the automatic rakeback thing? I had an affiliate before, but from what I understand most of the sites stopped going through affiliates.

Monte,

One of the basic problems with your argument is that all the other guys around your height (and taller) aren't having to reset at 225x5 squats like you.

I got to 3x5x245 HBBS at this weight, which is quite a bit different. For the one millionth time, I am not arguing I am not a gash, just that taking **** from goddamn midgets with half my ROM for having a ****ty squat is also ridiculous.

Montecore

I'm right there with ya. Not that I'm a savant on my other lifts, but only on squats do I seem to have the ability to do five perfect (for me) reps on one set, then get under the bar a few minutes later, fold up like a ******ed lawn chair, and hurt myself.

I've run better lately and recently managed to get to a 5RM of 300 (at BW ~200lb) but I'm sure I'll **** it up again somehow. Every time I see someone post here or elsewhere asking for advice because they've been doing SS for 4 months and are having their first squat stall at 325, I want to drown kittens.

+1

Most of them being terrible at benching helps.

MOnte,

Looking at the LOL lineup and minutes distribution Miami did against Memphis today, I am fully convinced both them and Indy are playing a cat and mouse game trying to avoid Chicago in round 2.

This should make the game Friday night real interesting. We could be seeing a lot of Mahimi and Haslem at center that game.

At least you have this guy.

Lol.

I'm a Sixers fan, so between them winning a few games, it has not been a good NBA month.

QB,

Short of the Heat resting Wade, I didn't find tonight's distribution all that unusual, but then I don't watch them all that often or critically.

I strongly agree with this. I felt quite a lot of depression for most of my early lifting "career" simply b/c the expectations that seemed to be set felt super out of reach within 1 or 2 years. I felt like right away I was way behind "normal" and have been trying to play catch up ever since.

I have a feeling that many people progress at quite different rates. Do people who progress more quickliy to start have higher genetic potential or is it possible for two people to have essentially identical potential but one advances significantly faster to start?

Also, it seems to me very few people in this forum have lifted beyond or at a high point on the threshold of "recreationally" for 10 full consecutive years. I know progress gets harder and harder but I don't think guys totaling 1600 got to 1300 super easily in a couple years then grinded out the rest in a couple more. Don't they just grind out smallish gains for a bunch of years after most people "give up" on making long-term progress?

I don't know about the rate of progress and ceilings but people definitely respond differently to training. The genes responsible for this difference have even been identified iirc.

I started to write a long post about genetic potential but decided noonecares. So just imagine noonecaresrainbow.jpg instead.

My wife comes back from the store and says "what kind of yogurt is it you like? I couldn't remember so I just got the most expensive one"

i just like razzing on the (relatively) poor squatters, makes me feel better about my poor bench.

the fact is, body dimensions are unchangeable. make what progress you can by training hard, eating the best you can and recover the best you can. people gotta top sweating these arbitrary "standards" set by whoeover.

bingo. look up kc's bench from the same meet as his 500 squat, have a hearty top lel and move on. but forumites need to stop using excuses to justify poor application and program hopping in my opinion.