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10-21-2014 , 04:15 PM

#751

StuckinARutt

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 38,148

and sorry guys i wanted to do better for us, I was really tilted that crash was nk'd and no one was shc'd otherwise we'd have a much shorter POE (process of elimination) list right now.

anyway I'll be home in a few hours and I will do some work to help you find Monte's partners. until then, votes on Monte. remember, there is no maj, so we have until 9 to do work

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10-21-2014 , 04:21 PM

#752

SenseiSingh

banned

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 8,379

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Originally Posted by KPowers

if sensei and skel are both found to be villagers my perception of the world will never be the same

well now at least we know half your perception of the world will never be the same

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10-21-2014 , 04:23 PM

#753

Meano101

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,365

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

options for villagers:

1) vote monte. lynch a wolf. great success
2) vote stuck. lynch seer. kill monte and the rest of my list next days. slight success

Can a more experienced player weigh in here- is stuck's logic right here? Would he really lose anything from making that claim?

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10-21-2014 , 04:25 PM

#754

KPowers

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 13,279

what are cc and shc

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10-21-2014 , 04:26 PM

#755

KPowers

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Originally Posted by SenseiSingh

well now at least we know half your perception of the world will never be the same

care to weigh in on any this huge revelation or should we just expect you to phone in your vote at 8:59?

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10-21-2014 , 04:27 PM

#756

StuckinARutt

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just think it through

not sure why i'm explaining it to a wolf, but for everyone else:

we're at 7-3 right now. if we lynch me (seer) we'll be at 5-3 and at must lynch (i.e another mislynch loses us the game) but we'll know for certain monte's a wolf since I flipped seer. so after lynching him, the following day we'll be at 4-2 which is also mustlynch

if we lynch monte tonight and I get nk'd, we'll be at 6-2, and will be at ML+1 (1 day until mislynch). obviously this is a better scenario, but at least we don't lose the game if i'm lynched

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10-21-2014 , 04:28 PM

#757

StuckinARutt

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Originally Posted by KPowers

what are cc and shc

cc = counterclaim. i.e someone making another seer claim. usually this only happens if I'm not the seer and the real seer claims, or if the wolves want to claim to try and get my lynched.

shc = seer hunt cleared. i.e BTM was not lynched last night, he would be seer hunt cleared, because the wolves killed crash thinking he was the seer (crash fake peeked btm day 1)

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10-21-2014 , 04:29 PM

#758

skeletor121

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Guessing SHC is Seer Hunt Confirmed. When the wolves hunt for a seer by killing someone who is close to the truth (named someone who is a villager or a wolf correctly) but are not actually a the seer but a villager. This night kill of a villager would then confirm what the night killed villager's fake peek is true.

This didn't happen with Crash because his fake peek was already dead (BTM) and not in the game anymore.

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10-21-2014 , 04:30 PM

#759

StuckinARutt

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10-21-2014 , 04:31 PM

#760

skeletor121

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Slow ponied by stuck.

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10-21-2014 , 04:31 PM

#761

StuckinARutt

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so as seer, i was hoping both that crash stayed alive and that the wolves killed someone who SHC'd another. that way, if I claimed we would effectively have 3 cleared villagers (me, crash and the SHC) and an outed wolf, which puts us in a much better position, but alas sometimes it is not so

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10-21-2014 , 04:32 PM

#762

Meano101

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,365

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

either you are sick good at this game... or monte is... either way, I never thought he was a wolf apart from my first lolvote

the absence of any monte defence is pretty striking

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10-21-2014 , 04:33 PM

#763

StuckinARutt

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we're both good. sucks that we couldn't be on the same team

and now that I think of it, it's wise of him to not cc and to instruct his team not to do so either, as it just gives us more info. he knows he's dying. although he's already given us a lot of info

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10-21-2014 , 04:33 PM

#764

StuckinARutt

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meano is your vote still not on him?

if you actually are a villager by some miracle you need to fight for your life here

you realize you will be lynched tomorrow, and if we're wrong we'll be at ML?

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10-21-2014 , 04:36 PM

#765

StuckinARutt

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consulting wolf chat on how to answer that question?

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10-21-2014 , 04:37 PM

#766

KPowers

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stuckinarutt going HAM in this bitch

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10-21-2014 , 04:40 PM

#767

StuckinARutt

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I was kind of gutted when I peeked monte wolf. a) I was hoping for a villa peek so that we could have a shorter POE list and b) I really wanted him to be villa so we could solve this game together

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10-21-2014 , 04:40 PM

#768

Meano101

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

meano is your vote still not on him?

if you actually are a villager by some miracle you need to fight for your life here

you realize you will be lynched tomorrow, and if we're wrong we'll be at ML?

if i vote for him you will obv say he told me to do it.... lol

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10-21-2014 , 04:41 PM

#769

StuckinARutt

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probably true

but basically every minute after my claim you didn't put your vote on him makes you more and more likely to be a wolf

what you're doing and have done since my claim is 100% consistent with a beginner wolf who doesn't exactly know what to do in that spot

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10-21-2014 , 04:42 PM

#770

Meano101

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though I don't think my vote really matters at this stage

also, apart from strongly believing that he was a villager, why is it I'm a cert to be lynched tomorrow?

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10-21-2014 , 04:43 PM

#771

Meano101

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Originally Posted by StuckinARutt

its also consistent with a beginner villager who everyone thinks is a wolf who doesn't exaclty know what to do in that spot.

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10-21-2014 , 04:43 PM

#772

BustoRhymes

Grand Elf

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 26,670

Wow. Wow. Wow.

So apparently my strategy of fake peeking Monte as a wolf is how to win the game, and everyone who ignores my Monte fake peek in future games is either howlin' or terrible at WW.

Anyway

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10-21-2014 , 04:43 PM

#773

bixby snyder

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Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,396

KP, meano, and absolam are the three who insta threw out monte votes at the beginning of d1. Take that as you will.

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10-21-2014 , 04:45 PM

#774

BustoRhymes

Grand Elf

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 26,670

I guess there is a small possibility Stuck has some elaborate wolf strategy going on that it beyond me and will get us all kilt, but his logic seems sound. If Monte flips villa, we can still win.

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