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08-16-2021 , 12:46 PM
Any suggestions on how I can get more money then?
Having the same amount of experience, equivalent(prolly better)skills, and same education isn't enough for me to get equivalent pay as my male counter parts. I'm trying to move from making .66c per $ what they make to at least .85c per $.

My pay has increased on average 1.5% per year the last 10+years while theirs has increased on average 5% per year.

I'm open to any ideas on getting more money.
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08-16-2021 , 01:31 PM
Yeah that sux. My only job was 20 years ago. 70 dimes a year, straight out of college. And we have the same degree.

#LatinoEngineer privilege

Even though my sister claims otherwise, says it was my school. Dont know, would think 100 dimes a year should be your salary.
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08-16-2021 , 02:16 PM
Who talks like that?
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08-16-2021 , 02:43 PM
MLY,

I'm not an expert on the O&G engineering field. But it seems like you've spent a large amount of time unemployed over the last 5-10(?) years and frequently have been making lateral moves. I'd hesitate to call this "experience" or that you have superior skills without ever being promoted. One way to advance would be to actually stay at a job and advance in responsibility whether at your own company or another.

Best of luck.
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08-16-2021 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
Yeah that sux. My only job was 20 years ago. 70 dimes a year, straight out of college. And we have the same degree.

#LatinoEngineer privilege

Even though my sister claims otherwise, says it was my school. Dont know, would think 100 dimes a year should be your salary.
Damn right #LatinoEngineerPrivalge

I went to school with a few Hispanic guys, their parents were immigrants, they got full rides because of it, and me and one of the guys interviewed at the same place right out of school. They gave him the job and he now makes just about double what I do. Companies that need so many minorities for public works always choose Latino men over women to hit their quota.

Women ME's are so rare and with the diversity requirements there should never be a woman engineer out of work, yet here we are constantly the first in line for layoffs during downturns and switching jobs trying to make more money without ever progressing up the ladder.

Not to $100k yet

My daughter is talking about owning a nail salon and I am encouraging her like crazy to go that direction instead of something math/science related so she doesn't have to suffer later. She was in Gifted and Talented classes and hated robotics, great!
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08-16-2021 , 08:05 PM
Lifted weights for the first time in forever. I was really really weak.

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08-16-2021 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
I'm retired. So he's almost certainly correct.
Well, he said more than you "made last year", so I'd interpret that to include passive income and unrealized capital gains in addition to income that results from labor of some kind. But I guess there are other reasonable ways to interpret that.
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08-16-2021 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
My daughter is talking about owning a nail salon and I am encouraging her like crazy to go that direction instead of something math/science related so she doesn't have to suffer later. She was in Gifted and Talented classes and hated robotics, great!

This might be one of the most ridiculous things you've posted. And that's a very high bar.
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08-16-2021 , 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime

My daughter is talking about owning a nail salon and I am encouraging her like crazy to go that direction instead of something math/science related so she doesn't have to suffer later. She was in Gifted and Talented classes and hated robotics, great!

I don't mean this maliciously, but it can't go without saying in this spot:

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08-16-2021 , 10:12 PM
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08-16-2021 , 10:28 PM
Well I for sure hope she doesn't go into engineering. My daughter will never be in a career where she will have to put up with the bullshit that I have. I'm going to have the resources set aside to take care of her if she wants to switch careers or get away from an awful boss.
She is naturally really good at math but is also very creative and paints her face every single day. I think she will end up being a movie makeup artist or something like that.
I encourage her for whatever she is interested in at the moment. Her birthday is tomorrow and I got her a fake hand to practice nails on and loads of face paint.

I always wanted to be an engineer and no one told me that I wasn't going to get to build badass things and instead I would be symbolically sucking dick and stroking men's egos so they don't feel so bad about being morons to keep my job while they pat each other on the back and keep all the damn money. She will know how it's going to be if she wants to go into that type of field.
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08-17-2021 , 12:27 AM
Lol at thinking the issue is with the field of engineering.

Yeah, she'll be crushing the world by putting makeup on actors' faces for a living.
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08-17-2021 , 02:22 AM
MLY a focus on schoolwork is probably more productive than future indentured servitude brainstorming. This young lady has some good advice too:

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08-17-2021 , 03:46 AM
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Well, he said more than you "made last year", so I'd interpret that to include passive income and unrealized capital gains in addition to income that results from labor of some kind. But I guess there are other reasonable ways to interpret that.
I think we both know he isn't cutting a 500k+ check to the man.

I think looking at how we got here is more amusing since MLY is a mechanical (?) engineer in Texas with recent experience in O&G. Someone comments that MLY should talk to jmakin as he's an "engineer" (Spoiler: He is not.) I laugh at the obviously absurd suggestion. jmakin feels offended and wants to epeen on the subject of income.

I'd be happy to entertain a fully realized autistic version of this somewhere more appropriate. (Do I need to adjust my NW for depreciation I've harvested on property I own? Do other tax implications matter?)

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Well I for sure hope she doesn't go into engineering. My daughter will never be in a career where she will have to put up with the bullshit that I have. I'm going to have the resources set aside to take care of her if she wants to switch careers or get away from an awful boss.
She is naturally really good at math but is also very creative and paints her face every single day. I think she will end up being a movie makeup artist or something like that.
I encourage her for whatever she is interested in at the moment. Her birthday is tomorrow and I got her a fake hand to practice nails on and loads of face paint.

I always wanted to be an engineer and no one told me that I wasn't going to get to build badass things and instead I would be symbolically sucking dick and stroking men's egos so they don't feel so bad about being morons to keep my job while they pat each other on the back and keep all the damn money. She will know how it's going to be if she wants to go into that type of field.
I would not try to instill some weird dynamic in children that men are opposed to women and trying to subjugate them.
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08-17-2021 , 05:12 AM
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<snip? She was in Gifted and Talented classes and hated robotics, great!
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Schools teach robotics now? There is some interesting maths behind the geometry of robotics, although I suspect it's too advanced to teach to undergraduates let alone school children. A starting point is the entertainingly titled screw theory, originally invented by Ball. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_theory)
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08-17-2021 , 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MeLoveYouLongTime
Well I for sure hope she doesn't go into engineering. My daughter will never be in a career where she will have to put up with the bullshit that I have. I'm going to have the resources set aside to take care of her if she wants to switch careers or get away from an awful boss.
She is naturally really good at math but is also very creative and paints her face every single day. I think she will end up being a movie makeup artist or something like that.
I encourage her for whatever she is interested in at the moment. Her birthday is tomorrow and I got her a fake hand to practice nails on and loads of face paint.

I always wanted to be an engineer and no one told me that I wasn't going to get to build badass things and instead I would be symbolically sucking dick and stroking men's egos so they don't feel so bad about being morons to keep my job while they pat each other on the back and keep all the damn money. She will know how it's going to be if she wants to go into that type of field.
She trick is to be the boss (or preferably the owner). Well, to be the boss/owner of a company that doesn't have to cater to the customer's dumb demands.

Try to encourage your daughter to have wealthy parents who can buy her a business or at least business owning parents who can make her the boss.
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08-17-2021 , 09:58 AM
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Schools teach robotics now? There is some interesting maths behind the geometry of robotics, although I suspect it's too advanced to teach to undergraduates let alone school children. A starting point is the entertainingly titled screw theory, originally invented by Ball. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw_theory)

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:Thumb: cool

She tested into G&T last year and the G&T kids do a robotics competition every year starting in 4th grade. At that age they build a simple car with sensors that navigates a maze and pics things up.
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08-17-2021 , 10:00 AM
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Thank you.
This is before May 2020 and after.
It's so crazy how your mindset changes. Then I was thinking I didn't look that bad and now all I can think is how big my arms and belly look.
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08-17-2021 , 10:02 AM
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Thank you.
This is before May 2020 and after.
It's so crazy how your mindset changes. Then I was thinking I didn't look that bad and now all I can think is how big my arms and belly look.
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08-17-2021 , 10:39 AM
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I think we both know he isn't cutting a 500k+ check to the man.

I think looking at how we got here is more amusing since MLY is a mechanical (?) engineer in Texas with recent experience in O&G. Someone comments that MLY should talk to jmakin as he's an "engineer" (Spoiler: He is not.) I laugh at the obviously absurd suggestion. jmakin feels offended and wants to epeen on the subject of income.

I'd be happy to entertain a fully realized autistic version of this somewhere more appropriate. (Do I need to adjust my NW for depreciation I've harvested on property I own? Do other tax implications matter?)



I would not try to instill some weird dynamic in children that men are opposed to women and trying to subjugate them.

If engineer is in my job title, would you say I am an engineer, or no?

I know the answer because you’re just a dipshit troll, but I’m curious to watch you do the mental gymnastics required to maintain your position here.
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08-17-2021 , 10:50 AM
What's the rest of your title, and do you still work on a boat?
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08-17-2021 , 11:09 AM
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What's the rest of your title, and do you still work on a boat?
I am an infrastructure/devops engineer.
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08-17-2021 , 12:23 PM
Jmakin,

You aren't understanding that it is disingenuous to declare yourself an engineer outside of your company because there are actual degreed engineers while that is just a title that a private company gave you.

One of my previous companies gave a youth minister with a BA in Biblical studies the title of Engineer. Is he an engineer?....lol, nope
When you leave that company you are no longer an "engineer"; declaring yourself as one here is....

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08-17-2021 , 12:28 PM
I went to a school of engineering. Engineer is in my job title. I have several certificates from renowned organizations in various engineering disciplines aligned with my work. I design and maintain server clusters hosting applications and networks that span across the globe. Even the most trivial google search will tell you that “engineering” is not limited to ME’s, no matter how hard you want it to be the case.
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08-17-2021 , 12:50 PM
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I have several certificates
Welp that settles it.
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