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02-12-2016 , 02:34 AM

#24726

1968

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Originally Posted by BigPoppa

And a pussy pad, I assume?

I'm no chyro but surely after any reasonable weight, squating without pad has to be terrible for your neck/spine.

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02-12-2016 , 02:56 AM

#24727

Aidan

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In the plus column: you're not a chyro [sic]

In the negative column: you're not an expert on anything else related to your comment

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02-12-2016 , 03:37 AM

#24728

HalfSlant

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if the bar was in contact with your neck/spine it would probably hurt yes

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02-12-2016 , 09:30 AM

#24729

BigPoppa

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Originally Posted by 1968

I'm no chyro but surely after any reasonable weight, squating without pad has to be terrible for your neck/spine.

Pin your shoulderblades back and rest the bar on your delts. No contact with spine.

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02-12-2016 , 12:01 PM

#24730

RustyBrooks

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P.S. pad or no pad, the weight is still carried by your spine. The thing that holds your upper body up, you know?

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02-12-2016 , 12:18 PM

#24731

nuclear500

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Yah but there is a massive difference between the weight pushing against individual discs directly or even worse between discs and the load being spread and supported by contact with a pad or muscle.

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02-12-2016 , 02:23 PM

#24732

Mr.mmmKay

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I don't have any delts

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02-12-2016 , 05:46 PM

#24733

HalfSlant

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how much of the load is carried by the spine itself vs the spinal erectors?

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02-12-2016 , 06:19 PM

#24734

kidcolin

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This forum is becoming a helicopter parent for spines. Jesus.

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02-12-2016 , 06:35 PM

#24735

HalfSlant

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becoming?

assani_deadlift.jpg

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02-12-2016 , 08:05 PM

#24736

TopPair2Pair

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this forum is the left nut low, its like the tail bone of twoplustwo that was broken during childhood and never quite healed correctly.

So many coccyxs around here.

Last edited by TopPair2Pair; 02-12-2016 at 08:15 PM. Reason: heart, none of y'all are in my league. come at me gym bros? I got your back Rusty.

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02-12-2016 , 09:31 PM

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HalfSlant

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what

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02-13-2016 , 04:47 PM

#24738

cha59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1968

....squatting with pad is terrible for your neck/spine.

fyp

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02-13-2016 , 05:06 PM

#24739

Mihkel05

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That sounds totally evidence based. Better take my shirt off lest it accidentally pad the bar too much and hurt my back.

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02-14-2016 , 05:28 AM

#24740

1968

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Originally Posted by cha59

fyp

id really like to see some evidence of this. Im sure there is a gto way of holding a bar on your back/neck but im sure most people dont do it.

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02-14-2016 , 11:06 AM

#24741

Faluzure

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RustyBrooks

P.S. pad or no pad, the weight is still carried by your spine. The thing that holds your upper body up, you know?

This. The load path is the same, the pad just adds eccentricity by moving the load further away from the column, introducing moment (adding to the maximum compressive stress your spine feels since it will be resisted by a tension/compression couple).

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02-14-2016 , 11:09 AM

#24742

Mihkel05

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Originally Posted by Faluzure

Wouldn't tightening your upper back or having large muscles have the same effect?

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02-14-2016 , 05:07 PM

#24743

Faluzure

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mihkel05

Wouldn't tightening your upper back or having large muscles have the same effect?

Maybe, but those plus pad would be worse. I'm not sure it's a problem in any case.

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02-14-2016 , 07:06 PM

#24744

Mihkel05

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Originally Posted by Faluzure

Maybe, but those plus pad would be worse. I'm not sure it's a problem in any case.

Seems legit. Given the variety of bar positions for squatting (including lol Zercher and lol SS bars). I don't think we need to worry about inane arguments about forces ripping our spines apart in healthy adults with good form.

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02-14-2016 , 07:13 PM

#24745

HalfSlant

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i wish my gym had a SS bar just to try it out.

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02-14-2016 , 07:15 PM

#24746

BigPoppa

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Wish my gym had a trap bar.

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02-14-2016 , 07:20 PM

#24747

CCuster_911

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I love trap bars, i wish they had weights on them, seen a few different kinds and they feel like different weights all the time. I default to assuming 55

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02-14-2016 , 07:23 PM

#24748

CCuster_911

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Does anybody use trap bars for over head press? Saw it suggested a few times online but have never seen anyone do it.

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02-14-2016 , 07:29 PM

#24749

nuclear500

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CCuster_911

Does anybody use trap bars for over head press? Saw it suggested a few times online but have never seen anyone do it.

I have. Feel it more on lateral delts then a standard bar since weight starts in line with body instead of in front.

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02-14-2016 , 07:31 PM

#24750

CCuster_911

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Do you clean the weight up? The trap bar at my current gym is tooo narrow to be supported by the rack

I mean the weight i would be pressing is manageble to clean just seems tricky given shape of bar

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