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10-28-2010 , 06:58 PM
kc,

I'm interested in you theory on athletic carryover with cheat curls. Currently I (don't) compete in an Olympic event. More on cheat curls and its carryover to athletics. Additionally I'm considering training for the long jump. Should I include cheat curls?
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10-28-2010 , 10:04 PM
Are cheat curls the curls where you don't use your arms so much as you use your whole back and whatever else you can to get the bar up while I laugh at you and how terrible you are?
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10-28-2010 , 10:15 PM
I think it's just a powerclean with a curl grip? Or is it done slowly?
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10-28-2010 , 11:47 PM
Some bro comes in wearing 2 gold chains, immediately does a set of db curls with too much weight, then goes over to the cable machine and does a variety of movements utilizing his entire body. Afterwards he goes and flexes in the mirror. /facepalm.
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10-28-2010 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Malucci
Are cheat curls the curls where you don't use your arms so much as you use your whole back and whatever else you can to get the bar up while I laugh at you and how terrible you are?
do your m00bs jiggle when you're laughing at how terrible the hyuge bros are
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10-29-2010 , 12:03 AM
Indian guys have to be the worst exercisers ever. In 4 months at this gym I've seen dozens of skinny-fat Indians and not a single one who looked like he was in decent shape or heading that way. They are really good at misusing the machines. Today I saw one guy hanging from the pullup bar and moving his feet like he was walking. Then he went to a cable machine and spun around like a ******ed child. I kept watching and then realized he was the guy I got a BP spot from a few weeks ago where the guy curled my bar in spite of explicit instructions.

Trainers are too easy on their clients. I'm assuming the trainers actually know what they're doing which is probably generous. Middle aged guy was getting PT and he was doing "power cleans" and then push presses. His power clean was a rounded back DL, reverse curl, then a jump and the PT just keeps telling him good job.
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10-29-2010 , 12:20 AM
i pretty much berate and make fun of my clients nonstop, they seem to like it. i try to take it to bill walton-esque levels, stuff like "oh sweet, i think that was the worst squat in the history of western civilization" and "wow, now i know what anne sullivan felt like trying to teach helen keller". i do the guy laliberte to david benyamine from time to time as well, "hey good job, that's a lot of weight...for you"
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10-29-2010 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Borderline_******
do your m00bs jiggle when you're laughing at how terrible the hyuge bros are
What?
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10-29-2010 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Ook
Indian guys have to be the worst exercisers ever. In 4 months at this gym I've seen dozens of skinny-fat Indians and not a single one who looked like he was in decent shape or heading that way. They are really good at misusing the machines. Today I saw one guy hanging from the pullup bar and moving his feet like he was walking. Then he went to a cable machine and spun around like a ******ed child. I kept watching and then realized he was the guy I got a BP spot from a few weeks ago where the guy curled my bar in spite of explicit instructions.

Trainers are too easy on their clients. I'm assuming the trainers actually know what they're doing which is probably generous. Middle aged guy was getting PT and he was doing "power cleans" and then push presses. His power clean was a rounded back DL, reverse curl, then a jump and the PT just keeps telling him good job.
Indian guys tilt me. I see a ton of them that are way too lean doing db and bench presses with too much weight and awful form.
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10-29-2010 , 03:41 PM
Ouch. I mentioned SS to someone in a bbv forum on here and said he didn't need leg presses, just to focus on squats for your legs. After he was correcting some one diet and listed his leg workout. Then he lost a gasket and posted some ridiculous stuff. I lol'd.

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Originally Posted by Abe.
i just did my leg workout in 25mins

3 set of squats

4 sets of leg press

4 sets of harmstring leg press

5mins of intense stairs for calves

with heavy weight this makes your metabolism a lot faster than any diet/stupid waste of time on cardio machines

Dieting just makes people want to give up, working out harder just makes you lose weight and look better. Losing weight without gaining muscle looks as bad as being fat
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anyone who read this, just disregard evertyhing. This was the standard answer people gave on bodybuilding forums 10years ago as they were really misinformed.

As an ex amateur bodybuilder who competed and now trying to move to "forfun" powerlifting , i loled really hard. Losing fat while gaining muscle is quite possible. Hell i have done it many times and so have people i have trained. I mean i just came back to the gym a few months ago after a small hiatus, i lost 4% BF, gained 2" on my arms, 6 on my chest and 4 on my legs and 8 on my shoulders while losing 1pound. DEF impossible. Also my lifts went up by a lot and i am now lifting heavier than i have ever done in my life. And those gains were not my body getting back to its normal self as i had no lost much at all.

There's calories from a lot of difference source and some source are assimilated differently by the body. but then again you'd need to think by yourself and no copy-paste some youtube video's spam.

And wtf overtraining? 9-14 sets is perfect for any big muscles. I train 1 muscle per day and doing any less would be me being a lazy pussy. Squats and leg presses are entirely different and any half decent brain knows that a lot of people in this world

And if you had not copied spam from a ****** program, you'd know the #1 exercise is deadlifts.

edit: sorry guys for all the hatred but my #1 tilting thing in this world is gym wannabes who only know what they've read on a teen bodybuilding site or on a youtube video or some stupid ebook like p90x

edit: i forgot to add: read a little about oxygenation, or HIIT. Even if you overeat, you can still loose body fat and gain muscle just by doing some aggressive training as long as you calculate everything correctly. Btw i eat about 750 cals everynight before bed in chips right before my milk protein shake. and im still shredding bodyfat while having a slowish metabolism. just wanted to rub it in
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10-29-2010 , 03:53 PM
No offense, but you are both wrong imo
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10-29-2010 , 03:57 PM
That Abe gai is not very smart.
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10-29-2010 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HalfSlant
No offense, but you are both wrong imo
Obviously I'm a big dunceface for asking this question, but how is chet wrong?
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10-29-2010 , 04:22 PM
Today I made the very big mistake of trying to give unsolicited advice in they gym, and I payed the price for it. Two guys were doing deadlifts together. One obviously knew what he was doing and had good form, but the other guy was clueless. His lower body was basically going down into a full high bar squat ATG every rep while holding the bar in a mixed grip deadlift. And he was only doing like 80 lbs, so the weight was not even enough to force him into the correct starting position.

Despite his ridiculous execution of this lift, his friend stood stoically not saying a word while he did his reps. Finally, I could not take it any longer and I walked over and tried to give some advice. However, while I was trying to explain how he could correct his form, the guy just cut me off and said, "Its my first time," and his friend came to his defense and said, "Yeah, its his first time" and they turned their backs to me and went back to lifting.

What can you do.
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10-29-2010 , 04:37 PM
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Obviously I'm a big dunceface for asking this question, but how is chet wrong?
Probably too broad an application of a good heuristic.
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10-29-2010 , 04:55 PM
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Obviously I'm a big dunceface for asking this question, but how is chet wrong?
Just stuff like this:

"performing lifts is not real helpful in losing weight"

"I would suggest looking up starting strength by Mark Rippetoe. Following that program to build strength"

Abe is obv a brotard, but is probably not going to be able to get much out of SS since he says he has been working out for a while.
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10-29-2010 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jdock99
Today I made the very big mistake of trying to give unsolicited advice in they gym, and I payed the price for it. Two guys were doing deadlifts together. One obviously knew what he was doing and had good form, but the other guy was clueless. His lower body was basically going down into a full high bar squat ATG every rep while holding the bar in a mixed grip deadlift. And he was only doing like 80 lbs, so the weight was not even enough to force him into the correct starting position.

Despite his ridiculous execution of this lift, his friend stood stoically not saying a word while he did his reps. Finally, I could not take it any longer and I walked over and tried to give some advice. However, while I was trying to explain how he could correct his form, the guy just cut me off and said, "Its my first time," and his friend came to his defense and said, "Yeah, its his first time" and they turned their backs to me and went back to lifting.

What can you do.
LOL jeeeez he probably shat himself if he was that defensive
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10-29-2010 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ook
Indian guys have to be the worst exercisers ever. In 4 months at this gym I've seen dozens of skinny-fat Indians and not a single one who looked like he was in decent shape or heading that way. They are really good at misusing the machines. Today I saw one guy hanging from the pullup bar and moving his feet like he was walking. Then he went to a cable machine and spun around like a ******ed child. I kept watching and then realized he was the guy I got a BP spot from a few weeks ago where the guy curled my bar in spite of explicit instructions.

Trainers are too easy on their clients. I'm assuming the trainers actually know what they're doing which is probably generous. Middle aged guy was getting PT and he was doing "power cleans" and then push presses. His power clean was a rounded back DL, reverse curl, then a jump and the PT just keeps telling him good job.
It's not PC to just blanket state that an entire ethnicity sucks at something, but my gym has a ton of Indians at it, just the area of town I live in really and it's pretty much 100% ******ation. Other gym tards will at least occasionally do something like a bench press or a half ass squat or something of redeeming value.

If you see a guy working out in a polo shirt at my gym, 95% chance it's an Indian guy. Pretty much every exercise involves a 10 lb dumbell or 20 lb curl bar. I dont' think I've ever once seen any of them sweat or breath heavy or look like they are putting any sort of effort into anything ever.
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10-29-2010 , 07:11 PM
Guy was deadlifting with gloves..and used chalk
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10-29-2010 , 08:12 PM
Gotta protect the gloves imo
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10-29-2010 , 08:40 PM
i have an indian friend who i tried to take to the gym a couple times... i was like okay let's try bench. he benched one set then started bouncing around doing situps and pullups and some dumbbells then he jogged and then we left. like wtf was that.
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10-29-2010 , 08:47 PM
meh, I'm 25% Indian and have better lifts than 90% of this forum...**** the haters!
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10-29-2010 , 09:00 PM
imagine if instead of 25% indian you were 25% bulgarian tho
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10-29-2010 , 09:10 PM
I've seen this albino guy at my gym, doing decent squats, but nothing really heavy, maybe 100kg-110kg. Fairly good form. He's probably low 80s bw and pretty lean.

Anyway, yesterday I was attempting a new world record of 145kg for 5 on my last set and he was hanging around waiting for the squat rack. lol1rackaments.

So as I do the first one, he comes over and stands behind me because I am obviously going to need a spot.

After my 2nd rep, I try and say something like "No. No spot.", but I am so f*cked it just comes out like "nuhhhr.hurrn nuhhrn"

3rd and 4th reps I barely get it up and he's moving in for the spot, hands getting ready to caress my chest.

5th rep it's like I barely even try and when he comes in to help me, I just dump the weight on the safeties, get up and politely thank him for the spot while flashes of deformed babies getting drowned in flaming radioactive waste flash through my head.

fml

Later I saw him snatching 60kg with what looked like good form to me. Although, the sum knowledge of my snatching come from watching the commonwealth games last month.
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10-29-2010 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 00Snitch
I've seen this albino guy at my gym, doing decent squats, but nothing really heavy, maybe 100kg-110kg. Fairly good form. He's probably low 80s bw and pretty lean.

Anyway, yesterday I was attempting a new world record of 145kg for 5 on my last set and he was hanging around waiting for the squat rack. lol1rackaments.

So as I do the first one, he comes over and stands behind me because I am obviously going to need a spot.

After my 2nd rep, I try and say something like "No. No spot.", but I am so f*cked it just comes out like "nuhhhr.hurrn nuhhrn"

3rd and 4th reps I barely get it up and he's moving in for the spot, hands getting ready to caress my chest.

5th rep it's like I barely even try and when he comes in to help me, I just dump the weight on the safeties, get up and politely thank him for the spot while flashes of deformed babies getting drowned in flaming radioactive waste flash through my head.

fml

Later I saw him snatching 60kg with what looked like good form to me. Although, the sum knowledge of my snatching come from watching the commonwealth games last month.
"if I want a spot I'll ask for one" AINEC
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