I actually transposed my numbers - meant to say 4 lbs in about 6 weeks, which is an estimate and based on your reaction, probably high. Basing it on my weight and the amount of definition I see in my midsection.

But this is a derail - I was trying to indicate to OP that 100g per day is likely not enough for him.

2361 yesterday, nice hour long walk, planked it out 2x60sec and stretched.

on to the weigh-in. i was actually 311.2 when this thing started. today i was 301.6

i have a little more concrete of a short term goal. first off, i read another fatty's log on here and learned i should be eating more calories. i'm going to get 2200-2400 depending if i exercise.

as much fiber as i'm eating, as much water as i'm drinking i expect to melt away at a pretty rapid pace. once i get to the 260's i'm going to start a hardcore pushup/air squat/curl/handstand pushup routine. start increasing my protein (it's not like i'm forced to meat at this point, quinoa is loaded with protein, nuts, beans, etc.)

that way i'm thinking i can start to rebuild my LBM as i continue to drop fat. is this reality based thinking?

or should i wait until i'm like 250 to start doing anything other than planks, stretching and walking?

or should i be doing all of that right now? (on a very moderate level, with the pushups and air squats)

Do it now. Do it yesterday.

Quinoa is not a great source of protein. It has a complete set of essential amino acids and some protein, but meh. Good sources of Veg protein is stuff like tvp, tofu, seitan, etc.

Nuts are a pretty terrible protein source, by calories. If you're not going to eat meat I'd def recommend eggs and dairy and reasonable sources. I personally don't like tvp, tofu, etc but that's just me.

i love eggs, i'd eat them everyday 5 at a time if i could. but i suspect it's bad for my heart. love the greek yogi. i guess i can eat more of that for protein. tofu looks a little suspect (but i've never tried it so i can't say for sure).

i had some BBQed chicken drumettes today. was pretty hungry for some meat. eating a nice kale/avocado salad right now as i type this. just wrapped up a walk. gonna do 3x20 pushups. can't wait to get back to 6x50 and even more.

Eggs are way healthy. Eat as many as you want. USA#1 guidelines are going to change this year to say exactly that. Book it.

i've heard eggs were good for you, but i thought it they meant in ghey amounts. not the lou ferrigno amount i've come accustom to.

The real truth is, I think, that nobody knows wtf you should eat, but they always quote studies like they think they know. 20 years later no one can repro their results, or they come up with contradictory ones and mostly no one notices/cares. I've been reading a lot lately that most of the original studies that were done that:
linked diets high in cholesterol with high blood serum cholesterol
and
linked high blood serum cholesterol with heart disease
are being deemed inconclusive.

The truth is, the body is complicate, studying it is hard, making true statements about it are even harder.

Push me too hard and I might start making some jdock-level statements so I guess leave it at that.

Rustly-

The early studies that the usda ran with did indeed connect blood serum cholesterol with dietary cholesterol. The scientific method was extremely poor and the results were essentially the result of confirmation bias.

Since I'm a conspiratard, I think this was likely by design to get more corn byproducts into the American diet. Of course there were also guaranteed prices for farmers through the farm subsidy and the government was handing out cholesterli laden cheese and butter to poors for free by the ton.

Amen. Sounds like OP needs to stop reading a wide variety of articles about random **** though and just stick to the plan as is. Theres WAY too many opinions published, its nauseating.


Also, meat4Lyfe!


ETA best thing you can do is track stuff like blood pressure and other doctory tests, and see how they change with weight loss and diet changes. Really the only way to find what is best for your body is seeing how your body is doing, not reading stuff.

Althought idk much about medical stuff, so even the tests they do could be worthless! Who knows

Correct. They are about to change the dietary cholesterol recommendations:

Right, that's what I was trying to say, rather poorly I guess. Those studies existed, everyone believed them, they were crap, but it'll take forever to erase them from people's minds.

Similarly, everyone knows that trans fats are terrible, and trans fats were used in almost every deep fried thing for a long time. These days trans fats are not used that much (well, depends on where you are, but they're used less and less) but people sort of still have the "hurf durf you're eating a fried food I can hear your arteries hardening from here." Bull****, it's just calories. Well, probably.

The sad thing is, the current crop of articles is probably 50% wrong, and 90% misreported by the media, but STILL is the best means of figuring out what you should do, even if it'll be proved wrong 20 years from now.

Anyway I'm a little sick of people being scared of actual food. If you want a reason to not eat meat, try the terrible effect it's having on the environment, i.e. the general unsustainability of it the way it is now.

2401 yesterday. had a nice walk and some push-ups. feeling kinda sore today.

gonna mostly chill and bong out and do some stretching.

makes sense. although i'm still going to limit animal products while increasing veggies and grains.

I recommend Alan Aragon's "girth control" which also has a nice chapter on evolving dietary guidelines and on research essentials so you can easier understand "the information behind the information".

Big rocks: adiposity, genetics
little rocks: everything else

read a bunch of the malluci (spelling?) log. i'm thinking it would be smart to cut until i'm 225 (which i think is a great weight for me). then start hitting the gym to increase muscle mass. of course i can start working on a sort of base in the meantime with push-ups/air squats/curls/planks, then hand stand p/u's once i'm 250, which i suspect will have me looking pretty good once i'm 225. then i can kind of tweak my diet a lil, adding some protein (assuming my blood pressure has come down considerably) and worry about looking my best.

i will be in the gym and 225 by the end of the summer, early fall at the latest depending on how slow the 250 to 225 goes.

is 6'4'' 225 with under 20% BF realistic?

keep in mind i add a **** ton of muscle and less than a year ago I did the combine rep test of 225 31 times (and that was after only a push up routine, i never touched a bench for years before) at 275 while eating a **** ton of protein (no real clue how much as i didn't track). but having meat every meal was normal. also normal was drinking a 12 pack with my friends and eating takeout.

i suspect if i wanted to continue to be a fatty and just gym'ed and proteined hard, i could be a pretty elite power lifter. of course that's not really appealing to me. i'm just looking to be healthy and look good.

this seems like the best plan for me over the next 7 months or so.

2262 yesterday.

2311 yesterday. nice walk and planks.

I'm in the same boat as you. I was 6'4" 310 lbs on New Years Day. I'm now 299. I laugh when people tell me I should be 180-190. I have a large frame; I doubt I could get under 210 without looking frail. I think my ideal weight is about 225 too.

I'm also a psychology student. One of the things that has helped me a lot is positive reinforcement. In the past, I always got discouraged by what I wasn't able to do whether it was exercise for an hr, eat clean for more than a few days at a time or even see my willy in the shower without sucking my gut in. Now I focus on the good things like eating at least 2 pieces of fruit a day, going to the gym, or not getting any calories from liquid. It has made a huge difference. I can tell already even though I've only been at it for 6 weeks.

You have to understand though. It's hard for fat people to just go from eating 4,000 calories down to 2,000 calories a day.

Take me for example. I'm 300 lbs. I used to drink a 2 liter bottle of soda a day. I would also drink about 40 beers a week. That alone is pretty much 10,000 calories a week. And that's just liquids. Add in late night snacking or whatever and it adds up even if you "eat healthy" the rest of the day. A fatty being told he/she can no longer drink soda/beer is hard to accept. Especially if they have been drinking that for years.

I stopped drinking soda on New Years Day. It took me a legit 6 weeks to truly have that under control. I would get headaches, my body would fight me and I knew I had to get control over not drinking soda if I were to have any success in changing my diet for good. I am now in the process of stopping drinking alcohol so that I have zero calories from drinking. I didn't even start that until this past week even though it was part of my plan back on January 1st. I had to get the soda under control. So this past week I had about 2,000 calories from liquids instead of my usual 10,000. To me that's HUGE. My plan is to stop drinking alcohol except for a beer here and there by April 1st. It takes time and focus.

Nice one JWM.

I've given up alcohol for a few months. It makes me feel better. What's also good is the lack of guilt that I said I or did something stupid when drunk.

JWM, nice post man. i've found getting complex carbs in me makes me feel less hungry, in fact i'd say 'full'.

2260 yesterday, did some pushups 3x20.