I am ultimately going for 1:24 half marathon because that gets me into New York. And half marathon training is healthier.

4/18
AM
4 miles 34:27
Long run aborted, hit by windy thunderstorms.

PM
Fast Finish Run
6.4 miles 50:01 (last 2.2 miles @6:58 pace)

4/19
AM
4 miles 32:00
Lunges
Weighted pushups
Pullups

PM
6 miles 50:22
Avg heart rate 137
4/20
5 miles 43:37

4/21
4 miles 30:09 (last mile @7:00)

Week2 Mt Hood Marathon recap 39 miles

Last week was perfection, this last week not very good. Juggling vacation, girlfriend, and work. Got 39 miles though, so that's the big rock. Need a long run soon. 40+ miles a week and a long run at least every 10 days = Promised Land.

If he needs a downhill marathon to get into Boston, I doubt he’s anywhere close to the top of the 2+2 leaderboard..

Wat

The leaderboard is
1) Pokkerron 3:02
2) Loco 3:11

The forum is obviously into strength and fatness and not endurance, thus the weak records.

And he just broke my 5k record a couple of weeks ago (he didn't log it but I give him benefit of the doubt). There was some guy that supposedly ran a sub3 marathon, but he didn't log it. That's like all the Chinese guys getting caught cheating at Boston, it's fake when it's not logged.

Pokkerron weighs 27 pounds less than I do. And I ran my 3:11 on 33 miles a week. He has no shot to keep any records by Boston 2020. Especially since I can cut to 145 . Well unless he stops chasing mountain goats and starts road running again.

4/23
Front squat 3x3 @170
Weighted hypers 3x10 @+90
Hammer incline bench 3x15 @+160
Hammer strength high rows 3x6 @+160

4/24
Mt Hood Marathon W3D1
4 miles 30:09

4/25
Mt Hood Marathon W3D2
.5 miles easy
800m 3:09
400m jog 3:00
800m 3:09
400m jog 3:00
800m 3:09
400m jog 3:00
800m 3:07
400m jog 3:00
800m 3:07
400m jog
800m 3:06
400m jog

5 miles 40:30

4/26
Deadlift 240x5
Lunges 2x8 135
Leg curl 3 sets
Incline bench 3x8 165
Pullups 3x6 @+25

Mt Hood Marathon W3D3
4 miles treadmill @1deg 32:40

Was in Florida and Bahamas all week. Might be able to salvage this week if I can do a long run tomorrow morning. There is a window between 6:30 and 8am where it's going to be 58F. Going to try my bestest to make it.

The threat of a long run is a love hate relationship. It keeps me from drinking tonight but at the same time it makes have a weaksauce lifting session. I mean what's the point, train hard in the weight room to just destroy it tomorrow morning running for two hours?

4/27
Road to Mt Hood W3D4
Long run
16 miles 2:15:09 (8:26 per mile)

The week salvaged!! I was cruising til the 14th mile, then by my last mile, legs were getting heavy. My heart rate was still fine, so not sure what was going on. Aerobically, I felt great. My guess is my brain started slowing things down since my body had no water for 2 hours and no food for 10 hours. Sodium also started building on my skin and I had salty lips.

16 miles is probably my safe max with no water and electrolytes. Probably have to bust out the fanny pack for the longer runs.

Lol, a couple of years ago you said this when I posted a training log day of 23 miles.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8...l#post50921993

Now you've seen the light and want to run marathons? You skinnyfat yet? Lmao.

LoL,

I think it's more that he doesn't actually want to lift.

Maybe so. My point is he found the source - running. Not for fitness, that's an ancillary benefit, but for life. He got a hit off the endorphin pipe and he's done. You're next

I want to run Boston as a bucket list kind of thing. It's harder to get in than I previously thought. Most of these runners get in by running 60+ miles a week.

I tried last year on 33 miles a week and failed by 1 lousy minute.

I have gotten more skinnyfat since running. I talked about it a few weeks ago. My waist is larger at a lower bodyweight than when I lifted. Gotta make sacrifices to hit certain goals. I wasn't willing to run 40+ miles a week because research shows those guys have lower testosterone.

So yes, high mileage equals more skinnyfat and less T. Runners look like shiet, I was by far one of the most upperbody jacked in Berlin. But I also willing to take some hits to run Boston. Plus I am going to see my brother in Chicago. He passed away, but I know he is going to show up in my delirium starting mile 20. He was the best runner in the family but he lost his way with alcohol and obesity and badly dealt health hand.

4/28
W3D5 Road to Mt Hood
Recovery Run 5 miles 43:16
Avg heart rate 131

First mile was 8:26 @122 heart rate. Making gains and this was a solid running week because I was on vacation. So far it's gone 39, 39, and 34 for the weekly mileage.

I am way ahead of pace for Chicago but I am only 9 weeks out from Mt Hood. Yokes, better get some downhill training in.

Are you on strava?

Yeah I am on strava but I do some treadmill running so it's not complete. Nobody runs near my hometown so I only have one friend. If I ever figure out if it's possible for strava to add in treadmill runs then I will probably put more effort into it being a complete journal. This log is much more complete and I will start posting key run screenshots and their breakdowns.

The mileage splits on the easy runs basically paint a complete picture on your actual fitness. And Strava breaks down the splits, so I do use it a lot. But I thought my time on the premium service was a waste of dollars.

Link to profile? I'll add you. You can add treadmill runs on there. The way I've done it is to set my garmin to indoor run, and it uploads it automatically. The garmin and treadmill almost exactly matched distances as well.

My watch is old, doesn't calculate treadmill mileage.

The partygirlUK running log is a perfect example of how not to do things. Guy is just randomly clicking buttons and look, he is a goner again. Lapka did the same thing (would run 5k time trials over and over again to get faster).

Honestly, I think inconsistent health and fitness is close to 100% ignorance. Training is fun and dieting is not horrible. But these people don't read, I doubt they even ever heard of Google.

4/29
W4D1 Road to Mt Hood
Foundation run 5 min Zone1 / 30 min Zone2 / 5 min Zone1
Treadmill 1deg 5 miles 41:40

First mile in zone 2 was sub8, so that's good. But I was quickly deteriorating indoors at 73F. Another massive sweat pool but I felt good.

45min later
Weighted pushups 4x10
Front squat 2x5 155
RDL 2x8 175
Lat pulldown 4x8 140

Didn't feel so great here. Never had a good workout when I ran first then lifted. Tried resting 45 min, still didn't feel good.

Melkerson with the surprisingly correct take

4/30
W4D2 Road to Mt Hood
Fast Finish Run 5min Zone1 / 40min Zone2 / 15min Zone1
7.75 miles 60:00 (7:45 avg per mile)

Speeding up a bit. Kinda of worried the extra mileage is not enough. I am willing to go to 50+ miles but there are new race predictors that state I need about 60 miles a week at average 8;00 pace to run a 3 hour marathon. This same race predictor states you can run a 3 hour marathon at 21 miles a week! But there is a catch, 6:08 avg mile pace for the training! Lol.

What training plan are you on?

To be fair, he said 2+2 leaderboard, not H&F leaderboard. I know that you know EmpireMan has you beat by 20-30 min. I also know that you believe it was very likely legit.

What's so hard to understand? Not logged equals fake.

Pokerron logged his marathon. We don't know anything about this empireman's marathon or training. Fake.

There was a fatso who once came in here and said my pullups were not acceptable form. Lol. He then said that 30 years ago he did 25 pullups with better form than me. Lol, should that count? Loltastic.

A 3 hour marathon is 6:52 per mile pace for 26.2 miles!! EV can currently run one at this speed. One!!! It's going to take more than yapping on a forum to get credit for a solid marathon.

5/1 W4D3 Road to Mt Hood
AM
4 miles 32:00

PM
4 miles 32:00

I wanted 6 miles in the evening, was not happening. RPE felt way too hard, wrapped it at 4 miles. These last 4 runs have been on the treadmill without my heart monitor. Trying to do too much by going faster and ignoring my heart rate. Back to heart rate monitoring tomorrow.

Fitzgerald 80/20

They all about the same