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04-26-2013 , 11:58 AM
I agree with Yugo. Get the setup tighter, reset, keep back straight.
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04-26-2013 , 12:06 PM
I agree with Yugo and saw.

Tighten the **** up.

Also, and it could be the camera angle, but your back angle still looks basically horizontal when the lift begins. I'm not saying you should have an upright back, but more of an angle would likely be better for your body type.

Nice arms, tho.
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04-26-2013 , 12:23 PM
Nits. Not everyone can be KC or miles dyson. Who imo had the GOAT h&f deadlift.

You can reset and do perfect reps at 225 until you're an old man. **** breaks down some when you get heavy.

You could definitely get tighter tho. Dick to the floor is the only cue that helps me at all.
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04-26-2013 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Aidan
You do a small knee rebend/hitching motion as the bar gets above your knees, and I'd want the back to be a bit tighter, but not too bad considering how close it is to a 1rm.

Squeeze your chest up and dont look forward (ie dont crank your neck back) - you should be able to get tighter as a result.
this^

Try to get your ass back a little farther right before the weight leaves the ground. That should allow you to get your knees more vertical, and that should allow you to keep the weight closer to your body. Get tight and ass back, grab and pull. Dont stay tight in the bottom position for long - that makes you weaker.

Fill your belly up with as much air as you can then squeeze the **** out of your abs while pushing them out. That should help stabilize your lower back.

Pack the neck. Cue: Make a double chin. Do that with all your lifts.

When you lower the weight, you can let it go down a little faster, but make sure to hinge only at the hips and let the weight get past the knees before bending them.
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04-26-2013 , 04:49 PM
I broke my back DLing last year (it's in my log), and cha's cues have helped tremendously. I don't want to alarm you, but your form looks similar to my old one. Fix it before bad stuff happens.

A couple of cha's cues that have helped me ---> Huge breath! Also think of your torso as a block of concrete. Tighten the **** out of your core. These cues also help for squats, too.

Another thing I noticed about myself (it's hard to tell from your vids) is that my scapulae were too far behind the bar. Get them over the bar... it might feel like they are past it since you're not used to it, but if you make sure that they are over the bar (and not away from the bar), it'll help a bunch.

My DLs feel solid as **** now, mostly thanks to those three cues (huge breath, tight core, scapulae over the bar).

Gl, bro.

Last edited by aura; 04-26-2013 at 04:59 PM.
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04-26-2013 , 07:55 PM
Yeah I was about to go on a big tirade about anthropometry and crappy looking deadlifts. I had different deadlift videos in my mind from Iron Addicts (charliebrown and Scott). And how their deadlifts were not pretty but people always said "nice pulls." And I was just going to continue with mine as they were. But then as I was reading the suggestions I realized a few things

* my big breaths are actually tiny breaths. I can hold more air (aura)
* practiced at the poker table holding a big breath and pushing my abs out, it tightened my lower back as Cha said
* chest out is a cue I barely started using recently, could improve here like Aidan said

So anyways I will try again. Thanks for the help guys. I am going to do singles and triples and see I can get them looking better.
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04-26-2013 , 08:28 PM
Don't do near max singles for form improvement, that's a horrible idea. Fixing form is hard when weights are heavy. Start lighter and work up.
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04-26-2013 , 10:18 PM
you need to practice and get better.

also, since you're interested in maximum swolertrophy, i would stick with slow descents on the deadlifts. it'll lower the max weights you can use but your hamstrings will get steel cable-y, unlike your beloved leg curls.
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04-26-2013 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aura
I broke my back DLing last year (it's in my log), and cha's cues have helped tremendously. I don't want to alarm you, but your form looks similar to my old one. Fix it before bad stuff happens.

A couple of cha's cues that have helped me ---> Huge breath! Also think of your torso as a block of concrete. Tighten the **** out of your core. These cues also help for squats, too.

Another thing I noticed about myself (it's hard to tell from your vids) is that my scapulae were too far behind the bar. Get them over the bar... it might feel like they are past it since you're not used to it, but if you make sure that they are over the bar (and not away from the bar), it'll help a bunch.

My DLs feel solid as **** now, mostly thanks to those three cues (huge breath, tight core, scapulae over the bar).

Gl, bro.


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Don't do near max singles for form improvement, that's a horrible idea. Fixing form is hard when weights are heavy. Start lighter and work up.
good advice

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Originally Posted by kidcolin
you need to practice and get better.

also, since you're interested in maximum swolertrophy, i would stick with slow descents on the deadlifts. it'll lower the max weights you can use but your hamstrings will get steel cable-y, unlike your beloved leg curls.
That can work, and might be good, but omgDOMS.
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04-27-2013 , 12:50 PM
Pretty sure I could let it rip this way. I am sure this guy spent a lot of time fixing his dead and then just went what was strongest for him. Now everyone just says nice pulls. Is this a different accepted style or is this just not recommended? Obviously I still need to try a lot of things before I go this route. Just saying I could really let it rip if I tried this way.
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04-27-2013 , 12:56 PM
The first thing I noticed was his leaning forward. I'm guessing that's to ensure that his scapulae are where they need to be when he pulls (I do something similar). They are right where they need to be when he pulls. His core seems tight, too.

afaik, upper back rounding is okay. His lower back looks rounded, but it's not the best angle. A side angle would be best for that. Still looks dangerous to this non-expert.
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04-27-2013 , 01:21 PM
I'll be curious to see what more knowledgeable deadlifters have to say, but IMO that form looks back-splittingly horrific. Rounding everywhere, not good.
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04-27-2013 , 03:03 PM
That guy has bad form that is injury promoting. This is all just advice though. You can just do whatever the **** you want as the HodgeTwins love saying.
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04-27-2013 , 03:10 PM
his back never buckles so it's not the end of the world, but i'd never tell anyone to pull like that. basically, guys who are good at pulling like that know what they're doing, know the risks, and dgaf.

I mean, KK pulls with a rounded back. but he's KK.
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04-27-2013 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by loco
Pretty sure I could let it rip this way. I am sure this guy spent a lot of time fixing his dead and then just went what was strongest for him. Now everyone just says nice pulls. Is this a different accepted style or is this just not recommended? Obviously I still need to try a lot of things before I go this route. Just saying I could really let it rip if I tried this way.
plz dont. This is beyond terrible.

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I'll be curious to see what more knowledgeable deadlifters have to say, but IMO that form looks back-splittingly horrific. Rounding everywhere, not good.
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That guy has bad form that is injury promoting. This is all just advice though. You can just do whatever the **** you want as the HodgeTwins love saying.
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Originally Posted by kidcolin
his back never buckles so it's not the end of the world, but i'd never tell anyone to pull like that. basically, guys who are good at pulling like that know what they're doing, know the risks, and dgaf.

I mean, KK pulls with a rounded back. but he's KK.
KK never gets to the end range of his upper back's ROM, and his lower back stays pretty solid throughout his DLs. Watch the difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh-ikyBAQr8

This guy's spine rounds more as the weight gets heavier, which is really awful. He's getting awfully close to the end of the ROM in his lower back, and when you do that, it only takes a very minor mistake to cause a very major injury. Things happen when you pull like this - certain muscles, joints and ligaments can get stronger, which explains why he can lift so much like that, but that doesnt change the fact that he's likely to blow out discs or crack vertebrae if he keeps doing that.

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04-27-2013 , 11:43 PM
Terrible exercise selection today. But massive, massive pump. Got so swole almost bursted my tanktop. Sickening jasongenova type pump.

Chins 3x5 +50
Mach assist 1-arm pull-up 6 8
Tbar (no chest support) 4x10 90
Cable rows 2x12 100
Inverted rows 3x12
Dips +55 3x10
Incline smith 2x10 135
Cable X-overs 2x12 40
Incline DB curl 2x8 30s
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04-28-2013 , 01:16 AM
Are you still working under your coach?
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04-28-2013 , 01:32 AM
Not really. Just making **** up. I am having a jolly good time though and getting bigger and stronger. Will probably skype with him when I stall next month. I might be stalled on bodyweight. 3+ dimes ain't enough to break 162. Such is the life of a volume monkey. And this is medium volume. Once I go back to high volume, I will be eating everything YTF eats in one week, in two days. Maybe in one day if I add back in some swimming.
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04-28-2013 , 08:36 PM
Lol. A year and a half ago couldn't swim at all, now you're a machine. Weird question. Did you start feeling hot at night when you started a big volume routine? I noticed this when I first started and again recently. Or do I need to start worrying about occult cancers?
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04-29-2013 , 11:28 PM
Squat 2x5 225 185x10
Leg press 2x8 360
DB bulgarian split 2x10 40s (rear foot 24")
Accesory work and some calf work


Busy, can't talk. Diet is crap. Étouffée, bread pudding, gumbo, grits, beer, other crap. No Mayo though.
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04-30-2013 , 07:29 PM
Pull-ups 16 12 9 6 4 5 (<10 min)
Cable rows 3x20 80
DB bench 3x8 85s
High Incline bench 2x6 155
Cgbp 2x6 165

Some strength monkey used the power rack for 90 minutes. There was no bench press at this gym so I wanted it for 15min. He was walking around like he owned the rack. 10 min rest between singles on deadlift (only bar in gym). Just ridiculous. How does nobody hate on these people in GGO. I mean we are at a gym and someone is hogging the main equipment for 90 minutes!!!! And to do less than 20 work reps!!! Good thing SS type workouts are rare. I rather deal with the upperbody bros, "only 2 more sets of curls bro, give me 5 min."
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04-30-2013 , 08:00 PM
WTF gym did you go to that only had one bar? That's more ridiculous than the strength monkey.
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04-30-2013 , 08:01 PM
Most of us lift in real gyms with >1 bar imo
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05-03-2013 , 11:31 AM
5/3
Deadlift 245x1 3x1 275
Dimel deadlift 2x10 195
Speed 3x3 195
Zercher 2x8 175
Hypers+70 2x15

Yeah my deadlifts look better but I lost like 30 pounds off of my estimated 1RM. And they are still not pretty. Just better. I guess just have to keep working at it. Didn't feel great holding giant breath. My stomach felt quesy during the zerchers and I think it had to do with holding giant breaths during deadlift.

My brother is in town. And he is fat and super high blood pressure. Frustrating that I am bulking. I wish I was 175 so I can cut with him. He ran and did light weights yesterday. He did weights in Vegas a few weeks ago and ended up in the hospital with 210 blood pressure. Stressful ****. He has no insurance. I should just cut so he picks up a few pointers. Cut back to 155?? Sick.
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