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CoQ-10, anyone use this? CoQ-10, anyone use this?

07-24-2008 , 11:33 PM
Anyone use this stuff? I hear its a miracle "vitamin" but don't wanna start taking it if my balls are going to shrink any smaller than they already are.
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07-25-2008 , 02:27 AM
I havent done much research into it but I hear its v. good.

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) It shuttles fatty acids into the mitochondria (the furnace, the generator) of cells,where they are burned for energy. Carnitine does this too. This is a bigger deal than it sounds because fatty acids, while energy-rich, are large unweildy molecules and otherwise labor intensive for the cell to handle.

This is why it's good for the heart. More than any other muscle in your body, the heart's unique requirement to work nonstop requires an energy dense fuel and so the heart does indeed depend on fatty acids for abt 2/3 of its energy. Make the job of burning fatty acids easier, and you make things much easier on the heart muscle.

In terms of the CoQ10 material itself, here's something you might find interesting. Unlike most nutritional supplement raw materials which you can buy at any of a hundred or more sources, CoQ10 has always been made by only one company, then two, and now it looks one again as I'm about to say. A Japanese company patented the technology to make bioidentical CoQ10 thru a fermentation process. They are the only ones who could make this cost-effectivley. And even so, still, it's one on the most expensive raw materials, which accounts for its high price.

A Chinese group began marketing cheaper, 'synthetic', not-quite-bio-identical CoQ 10 raw material years ago. Cheaper, yes, but questionable in terms of effectiveness.
That question has more or less been settled, or at least the conventional wisdom in the industry is now pretty unanimous that it's not as good and so I hear that the Chinese synthetic stuff is going away for good. They are getting out of CoQ10 altogether.

So you may see some cheap CoQ10 in the very near future, I get a few faxes each week with somebody or other 'blowing out CoQ10'. I dont think anyone wants it. I dont think you do, either. If you buy CoQ10, get some assurance that it's the Japanese fermented material.
http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2007/...t_coq10_01.htm

Article on a supposedly better form of coq10 same basic use/benefits but better.

-Mike
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07-25-2008 , 01:18 PM
I take it. There's a good bit of writing out there about how very good for you it is. Seems like one of those that shouldn't be skipped.
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07-25-2008 , 01:57 PM
i take it too
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07-25-2008 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AZK
i take it too
azk,

what all do you take?

i am trying to cut my supplement intake to the essentials.

thanks.
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07-25-2008 , 03:20 PM
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2711291

Is this stuff the good stuff? Would one capsule/day (100mg) be sufficient? If so at around 30 cents/day, $9.00/month, it doesn't seem terribly expensive
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07-25-2008 , 05:23 PM
Q10 is supposed to be very good for anyone on a statin.
Statins block a biosynthetic pathway which produces cholesterol, and Q10. Human and animal studies show a reduced level of Q10 can lead to heart failure, so a combination drug of a statin and Q10 would be a good idea. Merck had a patent on such a drug in 1990, but it never produced the drug and no one knows the reason why. Some speculate about it though.
Thats all I know about Q10.
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07-25-2008 , 05:47 PM
Dr. Stephen Sinatra wrote a couple books on it that are on Amazon, one that's like a four dollar pamphlet and I think another complete book, as I recall.
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07-25-2008 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J.Brown
azk,

what all do you take?

i am trying to cut my supplement intake to the essentials.

thanks.
I was taking

a multi
vitamin E
vitamin C
magnesium
R-ALA with CoQ10
Fish oil

everyday... on days with tons of bad carbs i'd take a load of the R-ALA like 300-600mg before meals as it is supposedly an insulin sensitizer...or so i've read...

After thinking about how much I spend on grassfed stuff and vegetables, i cut back everything to every other day, but I take the fish oil daily...

Also with my new schedule, I don't have a great time to take the magnesium so I've pretty much cut it... it would on occasion give me severe GI issues that are not compatible with waking up and running around from 6am - 10am with coffee, if you know what I'm saying... Surprisingly, I don't think I'm sleeping as well/recovering as well, I might have to start taking it again, just don't know when...


I am running low on the multi, vitamin E, and C, I am debating whether or not to renew...

I plan on definitely keeping the fish oil and the R-ALA/CoQ10 combination.... the multi is nice insurance so maybe I'll keep taking that every other day, unsure if the vitamin E and C is necessary...

Vitamins suck because sure you can blackbox it, but you can't really feel what whether it's improving your life or not, or if it is going to improve longevity or not, so I go back and forth...

I'll probably end up cycling every few months of feeling like taking a bunch and some months of just fish oil...
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07-25-2008 , 08:02 PM
Some things you can feel. But lots of people are very insensitive to such things.

C for instance supposedly helps keep your blood sugar levels more steady. I find it is a great quick pick me up if taken straight as powdered ascorbic acid, not pressed into a sugar-filled tablet. It has helped get me through some very rough days when I had gotten little or no sleep the night before. Helpful for the rush of sugar into the bloodstream that tires you out after meals, too.

I've also noticed PABA has a tremendously positive effect on my skin, and choline helps keep me focused. But plenty of other things, like E and most of the B vitamins, I can't feel doing anything. That's no sign whatsoever that they are not doing it, of course. I don't think whether you can feel them working necessarily means much. Depends on the vitamin itself, as well as any deficits you might have, and what's going on in the rest of your life, same as your food intake and other things you do to your body. A really stressed out person might notice certain supplementation much more, as with my Vitamin C example above. If you're already eating a fabulous diet and are in robust health with little stress, different story.
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07-25-2008 , 08:06 PM
is choline a nootropic? ive only seen it mentioned in passing.

-Mike
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07-26-2008 , 01:21 PM
Yes it is. There have also been suggestions that it might function to do other good things too, even including removing fat specifically from around the heart. But I take it just because it can often hit me like a cup of coffee, but without any of the spaciness or tension or twitchiness too much caffeine can give me.
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02-21-2012 , 09:19 PM
Bump for curiousity.
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02-21-2012 , 10:35 PM
I take it, like every other vitamin i take tho, I dont really notice any difference.
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02-22-2012 , 12:28 AM
i have noticed (at costco) that this is a pretty expensive supplement
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02-22-2012 , 12:42 PM
I'm just wondering if it's worth taking. I'm convinced everyone should take EPA/DHA supplements, but not yet so with coq10, mainly because I keep hearing about it nowadays and I only glanced at wiki once.
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02-27-2012 , 11:00 PM
final bump
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