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01-03-2023 , 12:57 AM
I think the best way to frame the concept is some derivation of the following:

1. Countries can have poorly functioning governments regardless of size.
2. Small countries that are mono-ethnic and monocultural (with concordant high social cohesion) may (or may not) establish extremely high functioning governments that are not practical to scale up to large, diverse, non cohesive countries.
3. Small countries with tremendous per-capita wealth due to extracting and selling fossil fuels (Norway is quietly one of these countries) may have addiitonal non-replicable advantages
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01-03-2023 , 12:58 AM
I hope this is a mysterious stranger with a phd who has some strong opinions on vaccines.
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01-03-2023 , 01:13 AM
Also, as far as mRNA boosters go; as far as long term health implications of Covid infections/mRNA boosters; I don't think enough information has been made public for us to really determine one way or another how safe/effective they are, especially for younger cohorts. However, IMO we really should have better data and information than we do by this point, and I personally believe information which isn't convenient to the narrative is being purposefully suppressed.

Sort of like when the MSM slow rolls or completely ignores what should be a big story, you can predictably assume it is going to go a certain way.
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01-03-2023 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GuyThatGoesToDaGym
I hope this is a mysterious stranger with a phd who has some strong opinions on vaccines.
Well, vaccines and public health programs to mass vaccinate populations are generally one of the great triumphs of modern medicine.

But I think it is very fair to question whether perverse incentive structures have corrupted the process, and public health concerns are being subjugated to economic/political concerns. In previous life I was involved in HIV research and I got a little bit of a glimpse behind the curtains of such perverse incentive structures (eg. Bill Gates raining down millions) that allowed for very expensive and resource intensive trials for HIV vaccines that there was no indication at all would be effective (and spoiler alert, they weren't).

No-one serious is arguing we should stop administering Polio or MMR vaccines. The benefits clearly outweigh the costs. But there is some gray area with other vaccines (including but not solely Covid) and generally the US is much more aggressive than every other Western nation in implementing vaccines into the schedule. And I dont think anyone is making the argument that health officials in the US just care about their citizens more than other countries, so clearly something else is going on.
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01-03-2023 , 02:59 AM
He's back! Most interesting poster in hf history.
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01-03-2023 , 08:10 AM
Chest+delt+tricep

INcline db: 35kgx17, 25x10x3
flat db: 25kgx10x2, 22.5kgx10, 20kgx10
machine incline flies: 4 sets failure
Machine press: FST7
Rear+side delt superset: 4 rounds
Tricep pushdowns: stack x 20, 4 more sets

All time pr is 40kg touch and go for 17 so 35kg with a pause is getting close.... maybe 6-8 weeks away. Just gotta stay healthy. I'm gonna do incline db as 2nd or 3rd lift when I'm in Thailand since there will be acutally good machines and I started to feel some pain in the right proximal bicep tendon on the first set of incline db and on a few others.
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01-03-2023 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dunyain
perverse incentive structures (eg. Bill Gates raining down millions)
I was under the impression that even the Austrian school doesn't consider money freely spent to be problematic from an allocation perspective, even if there is a wealth gap.

The worth of something is what someone is willing to pay for it, and if he wanted to spend a billion dollars on blood letting research then that blood letting research is worth that billion dollars.

Please read the above as a question, not as a statement. Here are some question marks if you are fresh out of them:. ? ? ?
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01-03-2023 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyThatGoesToDaGym
He's back! Most interesting poster in hf history.
I'm lost I can't place him.
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01-03-2023 , 11:19 PM
Wat.


He already explained multiple times he comes back with a fantasy book character name everytime, or as in this case a severe monastic sect from a fantasy book.

KC pulling a yugo in this thread. Except I think yugo wouldn't have missed this one since he is a fantasy book lover himself.
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01-04-2023 , 01:38 AM
I thought for sure kc was joking. But after loco's post I'm not sure. Coinflip, imo.

kc joking -110
kc not joking -110
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01-04-2023 , 09:21 AM
I literally have no idea I have a very weak memory.

I like what he has to say so far. Someone will reveal who he is and it'll jar my memory. Don't take offense to my lack of recall.
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01-04-2023 , 10:27 AM
His original user name contains something that ships usually do when they arrive at a new port.
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01-04-2023 , 10:56 AM
I filled him in.
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01-04-2023 , 11:04 AM
I didn't pair him with fantasy nerding but the antivax position should've been a giveaway.
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01-04-2023 , 11:15 AM
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Except I think yugo wouldn't have missed this one since he is a fantasy book lover himself.
I think I may have been the one who recommended that he read the fantasy series that he's gotten most of his "recent" names from. Initially it was from Malazan Books of the Fallen and now from The Prince of Nothing.

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I didn't pair him with fantasy nerding but the antivax position should've been a giveaway.
I think he's always had a name that is a character from one of those two fantasy series. Well, maybe not initially but he's burned through like 2345234324 usernames.
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01-04-2023 , 02:04 PM
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I think he's always had a name that is a character from one of those two fantasy series. Well, maybe not initially but he's burned through like 2345234324 usernames.
The tracks of the steppe are endless.
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01-05-2023 , 05:20 AM
The best part of this is that MS says some rather innocuous comment that is essentially fact: "We don't know if the long term effects will outweight the risk prevention in low risk cohorts IE toddlers" which becomes "antivax".

This where we at tho.

Public health sectors in Eurotardia are also heavily cost limited. The whole insulin debate in the US is pretty hilarious since insulin is basically free and if you need insulin for children or a pump (also for a child), then you need to stop being poor. There is also some neckbearding about the precautionary principle which makes no sense since that is a pseudo-scientific argument you use to support anything.
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01-05-2023 , 09:38 AM
I am not smart enough to have an informed opinion worthy of contribution, but please do everyone carry-on.

Speaking of insulin, it's great for bodybuilding and strength sports and I wish I would have used it much earlier. I think some ecto guys have just super low natural output from the pancreas and we notice a difference a lot more.

Legs
Leg press: 3ppsx20x2, 2.5ppsx20, 3.5ppsx20 all mashed up b/c I was working in with a friend
Static lunge: 10kgx12x4 right, 10kgx10x3 right. Goal is 20x4 right and maybe 15x3 left. Left is still much much stronger than right from years of split jerks
Leg extensions: 10kgx15x4
HAmstring curls: 35kgx17, 9 or 10, 6
Paused SLDL: 70kgx10x3
Glute kickback machine: 3 sets each side 1p

Session RPE maybe 7.25 so just about perfect.

It feels like everything has suddenly clicked and I've found the magic training template, ped regimen, meal prep habits, and recovery. To make it better, my left shoulder pain disappeared literally overnight. I dropped the beef+potato+rice meals from meal prep bro. Making most of my own food now again. High fat+high fiber and I was just super bloated all the time and hard to get enough calories in. New diet is much simpler and I'm sure the fancylads would rather kill themselves:

Meal 1
Protein shake with skim + some sort of junk sweets. I like sam's club cinnamon rolls.

Meal 2-4 chicken breast+green beans+rice+ grass fed butter (can sub out for chicken breast+banana+almond butter+honey+cinnamon if I need more cals) Generally more rice and less chicken on high carb days (leg and back days)

Meal 5
Whatever the **** you want tbh. Chinese food, Calzone, salmon+rice dish from japanese restaurant, burger, bowl or burrito from our chipotle equivalent restaurant.

Orange juice or coconut water with meals 2-4, fresh pineapple with meal 4 pre workout. Intraworkout meal of about 100g carbs from gatorade+highly branched cyclic dextrin drink.

Not gonna calculate out the calories b/c **** you but I'd guess around 4200-4600

Hopefully I've found the "magic" dietary template and can just stick with this going into prep without having to make major adjustments as far as habits or meal prep. All I would have to do is take this diet and sub in oat meal+egg whites for meal 1, sub out rice for potato/sweet potato/couscous, and probably do a fatty meat meal with fewer carbs and eventually 0 carbs or an omelette for meal 5.
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01-05-2023 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
The best part of this is that MS says some rather innocuous comment that is essentially fact: "We don't know if the long term effects will outweight the risk prevention in low risk cohorts IE toddlers" which becomes "antivax".

This where we at tho.

Public health sectors in Eurotardia are also heavily cost limited. The whole insulin debate in the US is pretty hilarious since insulin is basically free and if you need insulin for children or a pump (also for a child), then you need to stop being poor. There is also some neckbearding about the precautionary principle which makes no sense since that is a pseudo-scientific argument you use to support anything.
It really is astounding how much public health has been politicized and compromised in recent years. 2 quick examples from the CDC's own website. Although both these statements are technically not lies, they are very dishonest and purposefully dont address the actual concerns:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...nes/facts.html

MYTH: COVID-19 vaccines cause variants.
FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not create or cause variants of the virus that causes COVID-19. Instead, COVID-19 vaccines can help prevent new variants from emerging.

MYTH: The natural immunity I get from being sick with COVID-19 is better than the immunity I get from COVID-19 vaccination.
FACT: Getting a COVID-19 vaccination is a safer and more dependable way to build immunity to COVID-19 than getting sick with COVID-19.

--For the first statement, it is technically true that vaccines dont create variants, as mutations are random. But they almost certainly select for variants, and the CDC knows that is the real question being asked, and this response is very dishonest and devious IMO. Ironically, vaccines selecting for variants very likely isn't even a bad thing, as it is very likely the escape variants being selected have Spike protein mutations that make the virus less dangerous to humans.

For the second statement, again the real question being asked is whether secondary immunity from Covid is generally stronger and longer lasting than from the vaccine; and again the CDC absolutely knows this, but dissembles and states vaccines are safer and more dependable, which although true is not the real question being asked.

It truly is a shame that public health has been so blatantly politicized and corrupted.
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01-05-2023 , 01:18 PM
Yeah, both of the examples you just gave are trivially true.

On the flip side, the antivax community is even more insane and further out in space. It does sadden me how trivially true statements get considered "antivax" and "antiscience" because I'm willing to admit a vaccine without a long term study means we don't actually know the long term effects!

Kinda like how kiddie trans drugs are not actually tested for "postponing" puberty, but are heavily tested for castrating pedophiles.
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01-05-2023 , 01:56 PM
The interesting bit to me is that the only reason why mmr and other vaccines from yesteryear was not politicized was that no one asked whether you wanted to have the vaccines given to you or your kids. They just gave them. There also wasn't a mechanism for randoms to tell everyone their "thoughts."
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01-05-2023 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NotThremp
Yeah, both of the examples you just gave are trivially true.

On the flip side, the antivax community is even more insane and further out in space. It does sadden me how trivially true statements get considered "antivax" and "antiscience" because I'm willing to admit a vaccine without a long term study means we don't actually know the long term effects!

Kinda like how kiddie trans drugs are not actually tested for "postponing" puberty, but are heavily tested for castrating pedophiles.
Well, if Jenny McCarthy is the bar, then congrats CDC for clearing it. I personally think the bar should be significantly higher, and the CDC in its current incarnation is not anywhere near that threshold. And it is very disappointing. I would love to live in a world where someone can take a sensible position on a culture war issue without having the "antivaxxer," "groomer," "pedophile," etc. label thrown out indiscriminately. Especially by actual govt agencies.
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01-06-2023 , 03:22 AM
"Does not work" or "Any ability to transmit means it isn't a vaccine" are both things I've read recently. And yeah, the CDC should obviously not engage in this behavior, Fauci shouldn't brag about lying to the public repeatedly, we shouldn't keep stanning for asinine policies like outdoor masking, etc etc.

Brian,

You're obviously talking out of your ass... again.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/23/h...008/index.html
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01-06-2023 , 06:13 AM
don't fight too hard. I don't want either of you to get banned.
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01-06-2023 , 07:01 AM
The irony of old-N1H writing "back in my day" fanfic along with commenting on his ability to tell randoms his "thoughts" was too much irony for me to take.
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