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01-27-2011 , 05:20 PM
I'm unsure how many (if any) will follow this, but figured I'd like to update my team and individual performance by means of a log, rather than my blog. A little background:

-Last season (Fall season) my teams went a combined 5-24. (.172 win pct for those keeping advanced stats!)
-I didn't play basketball in HS. (I was a wrestler) That said, I love basketball. By far my favorite sport to watch and play.
-My basketball abilities/skills have consistently improved. I feel I'm at my athletic peak (I'm 25) and still improving (albeit very marginally at this point) my skills.
-I "GM" and coach (sorta) the 3 teams. There are ~5 brackets (although it's a little murky, as some people sandbag since they're ****tards) of A, B, and C play. My teams are in the middle competition, which basically means everyone is competent, although only a few people/team played in college. Most have played in HS or (similar to me) play a lot of pickup

There is much more to add, but the season began on Monday. I also have an obsession with stats, and since the leagues come replete with boxscores, I've taken it upon myself to have fun w/ those numbers. So, here's to the winter season journey!

The Schedule

Monday: Corporate 5on5 league (B competition) I couldn't get into the B2 5on5 league I was in last year due to registering slightly late, so instead my team is in the corporate league. I find that funny, but it's really not. This is probably the weakest of the B leagues, although still a step up from C play.

Tuesday: B2 4on4 This is the "easier" B division wall ball league. Wall ball = 2 squash courts smashed together and it's played 4on4. It's a much faster paced game, the wall is out, and the 3pt line is closer in. I think this benefits me.

Wednesday: B1 4on4 This is the "challenging" B division wall ball league... Didn't want to register in B1, but there weren't any other openings and I like 4on4 more than 5on5, so said "**** it, let it ride".

As far as my individual play, I'm 6'. I can grab the rim with both hands and dunk a tennis ball, but I can't dunk a basketball. (Mostly because of grip issues) This is *not* a goal of mine, although I'm relatively confident with training I could dunk a basketball. However, I don't really care, since I wouldn't be able to do it in game, which is what I *do* care about.

I'm a very good rebounder, not just for my size, but overall. Unfortunately 6' is small for all 3 leagues relative to bigs, so when I guard bigs, I'm largely overmatched. I rely on my positioning and leaping ability. Defensively I rotate well and am an apt shot blocker (I'm capable of pinning it on the backboard) but should be guarding more wings than bigs. For my teams, however, I'm largely stuck inside.

Offensively, my shot has always been shaky. Wide open I'm an average 3pt shooter (league average is roughly 30% in game; my overall numbers are slightly lower than that, so cherry picking "wide open," it's a good shot) but my sole value comes from crashing the glass. I finish around the rim well. I'm not great in the pick and roll, but I blame the point man when that happens. I am not a primary scorer, and frankly, I take more pleasure in stops over scores.

My individual goals to work on this season:
-Offensively, drawing fouls. I led my teams in fta/g last season at about 3/g, which is solid. But my teammates are largely jump shooters, and we were pretty horrible about drawing contact. My goal is 4 fta/g. I also shot ~42% from the line. That may seem really low to all of you, and I'm not proud of it, but something to keep in mind: League average is just north of 50% (like 52%?) because it's much harder to shoot well from the line when you've been running around. (Just shooting around prior to games I'm a 75% FT shooter) My goal is to eclipse the 50% mark.
-Defensively, I foul a lot since I'm undersized against bigs and I'm very aggressive about help defense. I'm not going to stop this, since it does more good than bad. Last year I led my teams in charges taken as well - but the number was vvv small. I want to draw more then 10 total this season.

I'll be able to post pictures and videoclips at some point later, I think.
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01-27-2011 , 05:31 PM
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I'm not great in the pick and roll, but I blame the point man when that happens.
O RRY?

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01-27-2011 , 05:35 PM
Monday, Corp 5on5.

They do writeups, so I'm going to C+P and just edit names, except my own. Note that my team in this league is called "5+3", because last season we were "2+2". (Since a lot of people were 2p2 posters) Lame, but no one ever suggests team names.

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Five Plus Three 41 Banner 18 59

17-3 Run Dooms 5+3

Game Time: Tony is keeping Five Plus Three in it early with his D leading to easy O. I’m wondering what to expect out of 5+3 (can I just call them 8?) this season. Team captain Rob Eckstut (I’ve interviewed him before!) adjusts to his second season as a GM. What’d he learn, how’d he change up his rosters? He did a great job getting players together last minute (they’re replacing Los Gucci Men for the season) so this might not be his whole squad. They’re off to a solid start though.

It takes me about 8 minutes of game time (14 left in the first half!) but now I remember Hotel Marlowe. They’re very talkative and, uh, encouraging, for each other. Melvin is the guy that got my memory jogging. Captains, don’t forget to get your new players jerseys at C.A.C. before next week’s games. Otherwise it will be a pregame technical foul!

Early on, I’m just waiting for Banner 18 to turn it on, and they’re not. 5+3 up 15-10 with 10 to go in the first. That’s before their reinforcemnts show up late! I wouldn’t be surprised if Steve and Kevin got a bit lost, can be tough to find our locations the first week.

Eric is the only offense for Marlowe early. I’m goinna say ‘early’ til halftime I think. Serrano is nothing if not confident, he wants the damn ball! For Marlowe, Jocelyn is making his living at the free throw line and taking advantage. Can’t Hack-A-Dwight on him.

5+3 ends the half up two. Maybe Rob did learn something about putting a team together. For Banner 18, only Jocelyn and Serrano have scored, that’s not good, get some balance!!

Wow someone just opened the door, please don’t do that again, it’s freezing out there!

And back and forth we go! Getting a little contentious, and sloppy, but it’s all good, the ref will just shrug you off if he doesn’t like your call. While we’re here, I might as well introduce your official for the season as well. His name is Terry but you can call him Jumpman, or just yell out ‘COME ON REF!” he’ll know you’re talking to him.

It feels you guys are scoring more than Genzyme and the GNats. I don’t know if that’s actually true (checks last sheet), nope, but it feels like it, and that helps pass the time.

Uh-oh, Rob has four fouls with 13 minutes left in the game. He’s easily the team’s leading scorer, that’s not good.

Oh and there’s the Marlow I thought I’d see all game! All of a sudden they’re pressing, pressuring the ball at half court and getting touchdown layups! Tide is starting to turn with Rob on the bench. Nick and Capalbo bust out of their cocoons and start scoring. See what happens with a little balance. 8 can’t figure out who to guard. All of a sudden Marlowe rips off a 17-3 run in 5 minutes. Serrano connects with Nick and Joe while Jocelyn forces a couple turnovers and no one can believe how quickly a tie game got blown open. I’m still shell shocked.

Post Game: I was so shocked by that turn of events I couldn’t even think straight to type the write-up. It was that devastatingly effective. If Marlow can put that together for even a half of basketball each game, they’ll be untouchable this season. Just a clinic at the end. Oh and check each week at noon for write-ups to be posted, or else…more assists for everyone! You thought I was going to type ‘your money back’ didn’t you? I’m crazy, but not that crazy.
I got a little bit of love in the writeup, but I also had a fantastic game to open the season. Unfortunately, my team lost, and we got blown out. A few personal notes:
-I tried to draw a charge in the 2nd half, I had great positioning and beat the dude to the spot, and totally flopped falling over. It was a no-call.
-All my points came on shots close to the rim. ALL of them. I scored when I leaked out in transition, I scored off a few put back tips, I scored off a pnr, and I had one baseline isolation where I pump faked->laid it in. I was very efficient this game.

As far as the team goes, what the writeup failed to address was we played zone in the 1st half and inexplicably switched to man for the 2nd half. I should've held my ground, but a player - we'll call him Ian - had a minor flip out since they binked a 3 to beat our zone to end the 1st half. Ian is a lot like big baby davis, pretty much how he plays the game, his stature, and his demeanor.

The turning point in the game was about 4 mins into the 2nd half, Alex S (he posts sporadically here) binks his lone 3 of the game to bring us up 3. Immediately after though they draw an and-1, Ian gets hit with a tech (he loves to argue with the official), and in these leagues a tech = 2 shots and the ball. They scored w/ that one and it was literally a ~8pt play or so. They went on their 17-3 run or whatever it was and we were left wondering what happened.

I am generally very even keel, but I yelled at Ian - told him to sit the **** down, that he can't argue with the ref like this. (He got a few techs last season as well) After the game Ian told me he plays hard and I shouldn't yell at him like that. He told me he is quitting, but again, no idea what to make of that. We'll see.



I emailed this to my team, breaking down the above:
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-I actually felt we played OK. We were winning at halftime, and things somewhat spiraled out of control after we got hit with the tech. They went on a strange run and we just completely gassed.
-As far as the boxscore, the 2 things that stuck out to me are this:
1. Both teams rebounding exceptionally well. For whatever reason neither team was crashing the glass hard, and I think w/ our bigger lineups (something like Will/Kevin/me) that *should* be an advantage. It could have just been nullified since they had a pretty good big as well, but something to keep an eye on.
2. The difference basically came down to 2p%. Everything else was fairly identical, with them having more free throws. I'm guessing we had too many jumpers that weren't quite 3s, and we want to avoid this. Without an actual 3pt line it's hard to figure out, so again, next week we'll know more.

That's all for now!
My hunch is that this is one of the better corp teams and that we were very much in it, despite the final blow out type numbers. We'll have a stronger grasp next week when we play a team that got blown out.

My line:
12/4/2/1. Didn't shoot any FTs or 3s. Only had 1 TO and shot a high % from the floor. From a personal standpoint, I'm happy with my play. From a team perspective, I'm unhappy with the results.
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01-27-2011 , 05:35 PM
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O RRY?

lol

But seriously, I'm not great in it as either the roll man or point. You know this! (Not to say I'm bad at it, it's just not a strength)
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01-27-2011 , 05:51 PM
Tues, 4on4.

This team is called "Nellie Ballers". We're a small team, technically built to run. Gary Stevenson (he's on all 3 teams) is our point, we have a v deadeye shooter "Mike", Xorbie and his brother (Joel/Dan) both of whom are largely midrange shooters who are competent defensively, me, and Eyedea. (He's our lone big, very solid defensive rebounder, has range, is a great asset for 4on4)

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Nellie Ballers 59 Warrior Country 79

Warrior Country already geared up for Cleary Club

Warrior Country jumped out to an early 17-8 lead and never looked back as they dispatched of the Nellie Ballers in week 1. With Pacheco handing over the captaincy reigns to Mike I wasn’t sure how this team would fare. They’re used to their captain only showing up for the playoffs, and then just shouting from encouragement from the sidelines. How would they handle a captain that not only has to play, but they need to lean heavily on?
Not too badly, as it turns out. Here were some random quotes heard from the Balcony last night.

“I’ve never seen him (Greer) so aggressive in a game before”
“Yea but, um, who are the other bigs out there?”
“Greer’s a p^$$%!”
“I (name redacted) will hold Worden under 20 points next week.”

Can you Guess which one was me?!?

Anyway, like I said, never looked back after the early lead. Coubs (or do I have to call him Snipes this season? http://www.thebostonjam.com/) made sure to get his 3 points and 3 boards out of the way early in this one. Anything on top of that is straight Gravy. He might have missed 4 free throws last night, but at least he didn’t air-ball any. Nice work big fella.

I was excited to see WC’s newest addition and Mark didn’t fail to impress. Unlike Matt's new showtime ‘hit’ I’ll actually be intrigued as to how Mark fits in with WC as the season goes on. Hell with Mike handing out 10 dimes and flirting with a TDub, Kid Flash took a back seat on this team for once. Ignore the 25 points, he’s going to get that. It took only one game, but already his ‘don’t miss a free throw in 2011’ goal is gone. Sure he can blame the one miss on a ‘head injury’ but it’s not like he was bleeding!

Now some observers have questioned how a team that went 0-9 in the B2 5v5 would fare in the B2 East this season, but I’m confident they’ll be just fine. Rob Eckstut knows what to expect at this point. At least, I think he does. Moving this team, in particular, to Wall Ball Arena was a great move.

The shorter court means less time between possessions and less ground for Mike and Alex have to cover between hoisting threes. This team seemed to want to get out and run on the break and that will mean good things in the league. Spauld is a constant double-double threat, and he might be enough for them in the low post to challenge for a playoff spot. Don’t get me wrong, they’ll have to battle hard, and it still might not be enough, but I’m saying there is a chance!! I guess it all comes down to how hard their schedule is. You could pin a hard (or easy) one on me, but I randomize them every season.
The team we faced had a beast manning the 4. He was ~6'5 and athletic; Noah is 6'3 or so and decently strong, but was outmatched. When Noah checked out I defended the big for a little bit, and luckily he didn't post up at all, so I actually did fine. He scored almost completely in semi-transition, since they lobbed to him over us/his finishing skills were impeccable. (And he was a good FT shooter) He single handedly crushed us.

The 2nd min or so they got a steal in transition, the big dude went to the rack, I was there to meet him and he caught me with his right elbow in the ear. It hurt a lot and I thought my head was bleeding - went to the bathroom to check out my head etc. I had taken advil before the game since my ankle wasn't 100%, and that helped null the pain.

I had a real shaky game and frankly everyone except Gary Stevenson and ~Noah played poorly. Mike is the definition of hot and cold. He has some games where he absolutely sinks us and other games where he carries us. Very high variance player.



I emailed this to my team...

About the specific game...
-I actually felt we played OK. I think they simply were a better team and they outplayed us. We are not going to be able to stop the big guy, who got to the rim at will, and we more or less forced the other guys to shoot jumpers. They had 1 shooter who hurt us, and we should have done a better job on him, but the other guys made their shots when they needed to.
-As far as the boxscore, the 2 things that stuck out to me are this:
1. Turnovers. We didn't force any. For all of our fouling (I'm not sure the final numbers, but I think I finished with 4; Joel and Dan 4 each maybe as well?) we got 2 steals all game. IF we want to score in transition, we have to harass/play the passing lanes better. On the offensive end, we turned it over 13 times. That was more then half the margin - when we were going in the half court, we forced some passes and just weren't moving/no motion. This was bad.
2. 3s. Mike noted we got a lot of shots people normally hit - I wouldn't say "normally" hit, but at least hit a little more often. As a team we shot 24%, and they didn't exactly play suffocating defense. Further, it's a shorter 3pt line, so our % should go up. Last season we hit on just over 30%. The good news is half our shots were from beyond the arc, which should be a strength. Had we hit even ~slightly above, that's the other half of the gap.

Not much more to say. For a team without a ton of size, we actually outrebounded them. I don't think rebounding will be an issue. Later all!

My personal line was 3/11/2. Was 0-1 on 3s and 1-4 on FTs. When I went to the line it was all when I got fouled by the big guy, and basically he fouled VERY hard. Didn't feel good. I also got blocked by the big guy several times. These are the types of games where I'm going to struggle; a dominant big patrolling the paint drastically lowers my finishing around the rim%. I do put some fouls on them, but it's a trade off.

I wish my team didn't settle for so many jumpers, as we routinely get out free-throwed, even when you factor out fouling at the end of games.

On the season: 0-2
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01-27-2011 , 05:52 PM
Wens Jan 26: Game was canceled because of snow. Will be made up at the end of the season. Next week's slate looks like:
Mon - Easy game, team got blown out week 1. If we cant beat them, will be a long/ugly season
Tues - Very hard game. The team we played wk1 went 8-2 last season and was the 2nd or 3rd best team in the league... This team is the best team. I'm not liking our chances.
Wens - no idea!
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01-27-2011 , 06:17 PM
cool log, subscribed.
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01-27-2011 , 06:30 PM
Sounds like you badly need to improve your shooting
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01-27-2011 , 08:54 PM
I hear that one of your teammate's has been hitting the weights. Especially given that you are forced to play as an undersized 4, maybe you will join him?
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01-28-2011 , 02:55 AM
gained ~7lbs since lifting. dont worry bobbo, i'll defend the bigs from now on
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01-28-2011 , 06:06 AM
This is a pretty unique log, I'll def follow.

I always wanted to join a bball rec league but my knee is ****ed so it's probably just weights for me from now on.

GL with the season(s)!
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01-28-2011 , 11:58 AM
KC is clearly missed. you're getting worked inside.
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01-31-2011 , 06:22 PM
We've got a game tonight and a bunch of people can't make it. My ankle still hurts (rolled it badly 2.5 weeks ago and played on it - so it hasn't healed fully) but I'm going to take Advil a few minutes before gametime.

I have this song stuck in my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mGBa...eature=related

And this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fola80rQop4

Spent the entire day crunching football (soccer) statistics. So I'm not totally in a BBall state of mind. That's ok tho.
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01-31-2011 , 06:28 PM
Ctr-F: APM - Phrase not found

Fix this
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02-01-2011 , 02:48 PM
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Ctr-F: APM - Phrase not found

Fix this
I will do a convoluted APM about halfway into the season. What I do is find every team's SRS, then backtrace our expected margin vs individual teams. I estimate mins played in each specific game for each player, assign a +/-, and then get the composite. Surprisingly it was pretty effective last year at matching who I thought played better/worse etc., although obviously there is tons of error with this approach. In a way, it's a with or without you stat, since if the team plays MUCH better/worse w/o a particular player, the +/- identifies that player as the reason. Only problem is it only adjusts for opponent team strength, and is completely muted to if a team is missing a player or not.

Writeup/boxscore isn't available online yet, but yesterday was a great day. We played a team that only managed 20 some odd points their first game, and although we were short people - our 3 guys with height couldn't come (Shane, ~6'5 posts here, has periodic night classes so wont be able to make most games; Will, ~6'3 had a night meeting, and Kevin, 6'2+ had work) - we ran every instance we could. Final score was 71-29, I believe. Will update when the writeup comes out. Next week looks good as we're playing a 0-2 team. They're averaging 38.5 pf, 49 pa, so cruising to 2-1 would be divine.

Tonight's game has been postponed due to the huge blizzard. Not sure if I have a game on Wens, either, so it's possible this was just a 1g/week.
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02-02-2011 , 03:57 PM


They didn't do a writeup for this one, or at least not yet, but it's not really needed. Final score was 78-29, and I had this to say to my team:

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Well, that was a fun game. We blew them out by nearly 50 - without a doubt that was the weakest team I've played against in a CAC league, and that includes 1 season of coed play! Certainly feels good for team confidence, further we did a lot of things well. Next week we have a 7:00 game against an 0-2 team, so it would be great to climb above .500. They have a close loss vs a team that got blown out by the team we lost to week 1 and they have a poor loss against a team that is 0-2. I'm going to go on a hunch and say we're going to be a big favorite, but not to the same extent we were this week. Some notes:
-After that game, Danny is 3rd in the MVP race. Hah, that's pretty cool!
-We passed incredibly well. They had a passive zone and frankly didn't communicate well. We only shot 7-22 from 3 (perhaps the lone issue) but our quality of looks was very high... I don't think we took a single contested 3pter.
-We crushed them on the glass, they couldn't shoot (1 of 11 from 3), and we got out and ran... I mean, there are no issues here. I'd love to play like that every game, but obviously the quality of opponents will limit that in the future.
-Also, we had balanced scoring. Everyone scored at least 7, everyone was engaged in the offense (everyone had at least 1 assist), etc. So, great job - let's build on this.
Personally, I had a great game. I didn't have that many offensive touches but got to the line 4 times. (Was 3 of 4) Also, went 2 of 3 from beyond the arc. Ended up scoring 11 on ~7 possessions, which is insanely efficient and I'm unlikely to match that production this season. My total line was 11/11/4/3/2 - just a monster of a game.

Again though, it was a game played against a super weak team that basically had 2 legit players (1 tall kid who I guarded most of the time I was out there) and then a bunch of below replacement level rec league players. They would be a below average C team, I think.

So far in 2 games in the Corp league my efficiency stats are through the roof, so I'm thrilled to begin that way. Yesterday's 4on4 was canceled, but tonight we have our first B1 game - a lot of people can't make it, so I had to scramble to fill out subs. Crossing my fingers to see how we do.
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02-02-2011 , 04:15 PM
Also, completely not related to bball, but I got a shipment from Omaha steaks. I got a sampler, and I'm about to cook some steaks. Awesomeness.

http://www.omahasteaks.com/servlet/browse/sku/4047



I'm listening to THIS song in my head today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9fC9aJd-U&ob=av2el
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02-02-2011 , 04:29 PM
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This is *not* a goal of mine, although I'm relatively confident with training I could dunk a basketball.
Nate Robinson very rarely dunks in game, but do you think his vertical leap helps him as a basketball player? Being able to jump isn't necessarily about dunking, but it is an indicator of your overall ability as an explosive athlete.

I told you this IRL, but I think others will agree that you are falling short of your potential if you aren't lifting weights.

Nice game btw.
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02-02-2011 , 05:13 PM
wow, got a lot of love in this writeup. It helps that the dude who did the writeup is a former teammate of mine/real nice kid.

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Five Plus Three Is Way More Than 8 Tonight

Five plus Three took on Basketball Nerds in the second game and this one was competitive early but Eckstut and his boys had other things in mind.

After letting the Nerds (hehe) hang around for a while Eckstut and company put the pedal to the medal and started to exert their will. Dan provided some nice early offense slicing and dicing his way to the rim for several easy hoops. Eckstut had it going as well draining 2 of his 3 triples while grabbing 11 boards and dishing out 4 dimes. At the break 5+3 has 30 point lead and this one was blow out city.

In the second half though the Nerds kept playing. Brenton was solid on offense for the Nerds scoring 16 points and grabbing 11 rebounds. The onslaught by 5+3 was too much for the Nerds to handle though as 5+3 comes away with the confidence boosting win.
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02-02-2011 , 05:24 PM
Your guy scored 16/29 points?
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02-03-2011 , 12:06 AM
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Your guy scored 16/29 points?
No, he didn't score all 16 on me, obviously. He also took most of their shots - my defense was quite good.

Anyway, just got home, we had a late (9:00) game. B1, the tougher division... And we got the win! Will post more when stats/writeup is up.
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02-05-2011 , 03:35 PM
So, I noted we got the win on Wednesday. Final score was 53-47. The writeup:

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Sin City Shooters 47 Sleeping Garys 53

Shooters sleep on Gary’s

Hello folks, this is Andres bringing you the stats for the B1 Winter session along with Kap. Although I’m new to keeping stats for games I’ve been around the league playing since 05’. You can expect better than average stat keeping from me and write-ups not later than Friday (I consider Saturday am part of Friday). I too have fallen victim to poor stat keeping in the past so my goal is to bring my best service possible. If I get something grossly wrong from a previous game, please bring it to my attention and I will keep a closer eye on you (wink, wink; I take bribes as well).

Alright jumping right into the action, I'm not sure if Kap jinxed Sin City Shooters (SCS) in the pre writeups but SCS could just not find the bottom of the net early on (or prety much the entire night), Shawn who hit 3 of the teams four 3pt-er's (team was 4 for 16) was for the most part the teams major scorer. Bryan wasn't too shaby neither contributing 15 of his own, the hard way at the rim. His stats don't tell the story, but dude was everywhere applying defense pressure perhaps a little too much as he seemed to exhaust himself a little too much and resulted in throwing up wild 3pt shots (0 for 5) and finding nothing but wall padding in the 3d and 4th quarter (confused???; see Tibbs write-ups for excactly when this is). Troy contributed a total of 6 rebounds and was perfect at the charity strip with 2 pts.

In the end however, SCS sub par shooting coupled with foul trouble (15 total team fouls is a lot guys) sealed the victory for Sleeping Gary's. Despite SCS agility and athletism Sleeping Gary's smooth operation (controlled ball handling), and team play (averaged 2 assits per player) gave them the edge for the win as every player had at least 5 points (sharing= buckets). High scorers for Sleeping Gary's were Tony (17 pts, 2 Stl, 1 Blk) and Alex (14 pts, 4 Rbs), but Rob Eckstut wasn't too shaby neither (5pts, 10 Rbs). The other 3 guys Dan, Joel, and Jeff combined for 17 points (team captain please get at Tibbs and have him add these 3 guys to the team roster, can't add stats to these players until that happens).

Final word: These 2 teams match up well, if they see each other again I'm not sure the outcome may be the same. SCS just had a terrible shooting night, but the rust is off now guys, good luck to you's next week. As for Sleeping Gary's, they looked to be in sync and looked like they had played together for a while, not sure how much better they can get, prove me wrong guys.
Can't do a boxscore since they omitted 3 of the guys, will fix that when we have that information. The important number is we won by 6, obviously. Will send out a team email when I get that. Some thoughts:
-We were very small. Our 2 bigs weren't able to make it (still lots of snow) so Joel and Dan were fill-ins from a different team. (Xorbie and his brother)
-They had height, but their height just didn't do much. They had 18 total rebounds, and only 9 defensive - that's just brutal. (I personally had 6 offensive boards, they had no clue how to box out)
-My personal stat line was 5/10/2/0/0. I went 3-4 from the line (so I drew my goal of 4 foul shots and am back over 50%... Awesome!) and they didn't credit me with taking any 3s, although I thought I went 0/1 from beyond the arc. My 1 2pt was a drive hard left into the weakside and I got hammered but since I made it, was a no-call. (Ref had been good) I didn't take any other jumpshots except for the 1 3 I thought I took (that they didn't discredit me, so I'll take it) but got blocked by their height ~3 times. (Gotta keep trying to draw contact) Had 1 embarrassing putback where I airballed, since I thought I was going to get stuffed so just tried to put the shot up quickly. So, something like 1-6, 0-1, 3-4. Had a few TOs too - wasn't a good offensive game for me.

Gary Stevenson was the hero of the game I thought. Just an efficient beast. When he plays well, the offense runs smoothly. We also ****ed up the end game execution, but I wont get into that here.

In other news, I'm in Phoenix now. Balled on the Suns court before the game and have some footage. Will upload and post it.

Edit: As far as the other team not shooting well, it's because they had 1 legit shooter, and the rest of the team had awful form. I told my guys to lay off them and we gave them 3s. (Except the 1 guy who hit them, obviously) I don't agree that this team doesn't have potential - we were missing 2 guys (who are important, as they're our height) and in a rematch, we should be a favorite over this team. Not a big one tho, it could go either way.
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02-05-2011 , 06:03 PM
I wrestled in HS because I was white and only 6ft, and my HS had very good bball. Oh yeah, I was sub Mendoza from anything outside of 4 ft. I just wanted to comment on you wanting to guard wings. I would sort of go the other way, without knowing your team strengths. I found that wrestling realllllllly increased my footwork, I moved to LT where I finally found a home in football solely from wrestling work. You should guard where your team is weakest. You understand leverage, you can hold position vs a big. You move well in a 10 ft area, you can stay in front of a much faster, penetrating PG. You can take the contact so you fight over the pick and roll, or off ball screens. If you physically match up well with a ball-dominant wing, and you're the team's best defender, go for it, but I would say to do a lot of your old wrestling drills, especially whatever you called circle, circle, shoot, and be versatile on D.
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02-05-2011 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonaspublius
I wrestled in HS because I was white and only 6ft, and my HS had very good bball. Oh yeah, I was sub Mendoza from anything outside of 4 ft. I just wanted to comment on you wanting to guard wings. I would sort of go the other way, without knowing your team strengths. I found that wrestling realllllllly increased my footwork, I moved to LT where I finally found a home in football solely from wrestling work. You should guard where your team is weakest. You understand leverage, you can hold position vs a big. You move well in a 10 ft area, you can stay in front of a much faster, penetrating PG. You can take the contact so you fight over the pick and roll, or off ball screens. If you physically match up well with a ball-dominant wing, and you're the team's best defender, go for it, but I would say to do a lot of your old wrestling drills, especially whatever you called circle, circle, shoot, and be versatile on D.
These are great points. And yeah, I want to do what's best for my team - I'm just saying generally I'd prefer to be more on-ball.
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02-05-2011 , 11:02 PM
Bobbo, I remember a few months back you inquired SE minds for some plays to run. What is your team's basic offensive and defensive philosophies?
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