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10-30-2010 , 10:32 AM

peterk9

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,618

I think the title is self explanatory.
How much tax do you pay on online poker in Germany?
In Holland we pay 29%, how is this in Germany?
Any other special regulations?

10-30-2010 , 01:28 PM

koenigego

self-banned

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,830

i dont pay any.

10-30-2010 , 01:56 PM

peterk9

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,618

Hehe,
Not the answer I'm looking for

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If you make 100k+ Euro a year, I guess you need to pay, but how much?

10-30-2010 , 02:23 PM

greatcall

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 237

i believe, no one can answer this question in germany

10-30-2010 , 06:20 PM

solucky

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,480

Onlinepoker is still not legalized here.

If you tax it as normal income up to 45%, but usually the most dont pay taxes.Its more like a drugdealer...as long it works its cash. If they catch you you have a problem

10-31-2010 , 03:25 PM

Louis Cyphre

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 11,025

Online poker is illegal.
The tax laws aren't clear on wether poker is taxable.
For an income of over 100k you are looking at a 42-45% tax rate.

10-31-2010 , 05:49 PM

peterk9

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,618

Cheers

11-01-2010 , 07:33 AM

Lord_of_The_Krauts

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 172

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterk9

Hehe,
Not the answer I'm looking for

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If you make 100k+ Euro a year, I guess you need to pay, but how much?

36.700 = 36,7%

11-24-2010 , 07:25 AM

derxia

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3

its gambling - so no tax

11-25-2010 , 06:17 AM

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Furbykiller

adept

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 788

Quote:

Originally Posted by derxia

its gambling - so no tax

if u do it as a job it is not gambling so its taxable. i would estimate 45% but can vary in case to case..

12-08-2010 , 11:16 AM

#11

renomista

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 29

It is a bit unclear.

In general Gambling is Tax Free in Germany, but if the Tax Authority thinks you are doing gambling as a business they can tax it. Probably you can sue against that but AFAIK there were no fundamental judgments on this topic. When they do this you can deduct losses and costs (computers, books, traveling rake etc.) . If you are taxed normal german Incometax-rates Apply (Expensive! see posts above.)

But over all it is a very difficult topic in Germany.

12-09-2010 , 05:25 AM

#12

Nue

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 12

Question is what happens when he transfers the money to the bank or to moneybookers and then to the bank , can he get into trouble if he withdrawn a big amount? (lets say 10K+)

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