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11-15-2016 , 07:01 PM
Conor has been talking about raising two UFC belts before he even had a title fight lined up.
11-15-2016 , 07:03 PM
Conor has received extra belts for promotional reasons before so it's not like he has to carry his belt out there with him. Wouldn't it be weird if Conor brought the 45 belt and Eddie didn't bring the belt they were actually fighting for???
11-15-2016 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Wouldn't it be weird if Conor brought the 45 belt and Eddie didn't bring the belt they were actually fighting for???
No? That's not how it works....
11-15-2016 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Woodley saying on the record he is hoping he gets paid for the gesture douches up the entire premis of him being a good guy.
Pretty sure Woodley turned down the 20% pay from his opponent missing weight as well, he was having a bad night I can see that being fair.
11-15-2016 , 09:16 PM
I think both parties were kind of stupid. The UFC being the promoter I guess more of the responsibility is on them. Although IIRC their public stance was they wanted Conor to give up his FW title but he basically refused so they let it slide due to his personal reasons or w/e. Wasn't that the reason the fight took so long to get made? So the only reason it was a 2 champion fight is because Conor insisted, so shouldn't he bring his title he wanted to keep so bad?

I do agree it made the UFC look bad and they should have had this figured out before hand. But it's also pretty stupid Conor didn't bring his belt and expected to get a new one/prop one for pics when the whole thing was his idea.
11-15-2016 , 09:22 PM
agree, stupid by both, but mostly the UFC.

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“I didn’t know Conor McGregor was undefeated. I didn’t know he had a reign in MMA for 20 years and undefeated and was world champion in five different weight classes. That’s something I didn’t know. So I guess you guys are telling me something new if you say he’s the Floyd Mayweather of the MMA,” Mayweather told TMZ.

“If you say he’s the Floyd Mayweather of the MMA, I’m trying to find out have you ever made $300 million in one night? Have you ever made $100 million in one night? Have you ever made $70 million in one night. So as far as saying he’s the Floyd Mayweather of MMA — it’s OK to say it but it’s not true.”
lol
11-15-2016 , 09:58 PM
not to nitpick, but conor to mma has far exceeded floyd to boxing
11-15-2016 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
No? That's not how it works....
That's my point. Clearly someone from the UFC had to bring out both belts.
11-15-2016 , 10:27 PM
Conor should taunt Floyd and ask him why he's not going to fight him or GGG or anyone else in their prime.
11-15-2016 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
That's my point. Clearly someone from the UFC had to bring out both belts.
The point is the UFC brings out the belt that is actually being contested for.
11-16-2016 , 12:02 AM
And it is a brand new belt, not the belt belonging to defending champ.
11-16-2016 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
The point is the UFC brings out the belt that is actually being contested for.
So your saying Conor should bring the other belt out when he walks out or he should teleport it or what? Clearly he shouldn't bring a '45 belt to a '55 fight. Especially when Eddie isn't bringing his belt.
11-16-2016 , 12:08 AM
They get new belts every time they defend and sometimes for different promotional things. For instance, when Jose went on a press tour the UFC brought a belt for him. They didn't ask him to bring one of the belts he won...
11-16-2016 , 12:19 AM
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They get new belts every time they defend
well then you can forgive conor for having no idea how it works
11-16-2016 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
That's my point. Clearly someone from the UFC had to bring out both belts.
I'm pretty sure your point is the opposite to my point.
11-16-2016 , 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
So your saying Conor should bring the other belt out when he walks out or he should teleport it or what? Clearly he shouldn't bring a '45 belt to a '55 fight. Especially when Eddie isn't bringing his belt.
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
They get new belts every time they defend and sometimes for different promotional things. For instance, when Jose went on a press tour the UFC brought a belt for him. They didn't ask him to bring one of the belts he won...
My mind is blown that these are consecutive posts by the same person

-"Conor shouldn't be expected to bring his 45 belt to the ring with him"
-"Everybody knows you get a new belt whenever you win/defend"
-"Why didn't Eddie bring his 55 belt to give to Conor?"

And yes, why the hell would the UFC have a backup 45 belt there when its a 55 fight?? Because McGregor 'demanded' it? It just looks like a diva move when he throws a tantrum over it because they "ruined his moment".
11-16-2016 , 12:32 AM
the top ufc dogs have done a full 180 and now strikers are dominating wrestlers

what a world we live in

(oh and khabib doesnt count as hes an alien)
11-16-2016 , 12:35 AM
The plan was for him to hoist two belts. This was the plan the whole time. Are you seriously saying he should have brought his belt out with him? He isn't defending that belt, wouldn't that seem arrogant or b-league or confusing? No one EVER brings out their own belt.
11-16-2016 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
The plan was for him to hoist two belts. This was the plan the whole time.
Yes, his plan.

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Originally Posted by rubbrband
No one EVER brings out their own belt.
In UFC championship fights where somebody has a chance to hold 2 belts simultaneously, this is definitely true 100% of the time.
11-16-2016 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
And yes, why the hell would the UFC have a backup 45 belt there when its a 55 fight?? Because McGregor 'demanded' it? It just looks like a diva move when he throws a tantrum over it because they "ruined his moment".
i think the tantrum (and the obsession with the goal in general) is pretty lolworthy, but i think it's totally fair to laugh at the UFC for dropping the ball on this. as has been said, conor's team is also to blame for not checking what the plan was.

they let conor skip the line and gave him the shot because it's good business. he clearly stated he wants to hold two belts aloft. those photos of him holding 2 belts (and the press they have generated) will probably directly lead to them making some additional millions of dollars of revenue in the long run. to not have everything perfectly choreographed for that moment, is, as someone said, amateur hour. i don't think it was a subtle fu to conor whatsoever, they just screwed up.
11-16-2016 , 12:57 AM
I agreed with everything until the last line. I do think the incident came down to a gap in communication, but i do also think from Dana's "you're supposed to bring your own belt" line of responses that it seems like there is definite animosity there (coupled with Conor saying he hasn't met any of the new owners yet).
11-16-2016 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
i think the tantrum (and the obsession with the goal in general) is pretty lolworthy, but i think it's totally fair to laugh at the UFC for dropping the ball on this. as has been said, conor's team is also to blame for not checking what the plan was.

they let conor skip the line and gave him the shot because it's good business. he clearly stated he wants to hold two belts aloft. those photos of him holding 2 belts (and the press they have generated) will probably directly lead to them making some additional millions of dollars of revenue in the long run. to not have everything perfectly choreographed for that moment, is, as someone said, amateur hour. i don't think it was a subtle fu to conor whatsoever, they just screwed up.
Exactly, now back to my original question. Did Ari fire the guy who was supposed to bring the second belt?





PS: I just realized Conor hoisted the interim and the Champ belt after defeating Jose so it's possible he brought that one out but that's not even a real belt. It's also worth mentioning they show him with two belts multiple times in every ufc promo.
11-16-2016 , 12:59 AM
how is it possible that Conor hasn't met with the new owners yet?
11-16-2016 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
how is it possible that Conor hasn't met with the new owners yet?
Because you don't try **** with Ari Gold!
11-16-2016 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
well then you can forgive conor for having no idea how it works

      
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