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View Poll Results: Who wins??
Machida
13 68.42%
Romero
3 15.79%
Aldo
11 57.89%
McGregor
7 36.84%
Lawler
6 31.58%
MacDonald
9 47.37%
Mir
6 31.58%
Duffee
9 47.37%
Dillashaw
11 57.89%
Barão
4 21.05%

07-14-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Faluzure
I think it had to be that plus body shots. Faber and kavanaugh both agreed he was winded in the first minute. Even if he hadn't been training really that wouldn't have been the case. Maybe after 1-2 rounds, but not after 40 seconds. It had to be an adrenaline dump, or maybe those body shots helped, and faber did say he looked like garbage in the only sparring and conditioning he had done, so maybe a little of everything.
Source?
07-14-2015 , 03:54 PM
Chad landed 5 takedowns and Conor got up 4 times.

Yes, Aldo would put him in big trouble if it hits the mats.

Probably a bit of hype building but it is interesting how TAM (Faber i believe) talked extensively how Chad had found a winning formula with short camps and that he was in perfect condition. He obviously wasn't but i doubt it is as easy as "longer camp = can go 5 rounds". That work to the body will take the wind out and he probably had trouble with the atmosphere and pressure too.
07-14-2015 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Don
As I said previously, the #1 reason why Chad gassed is because he was scared/befuddled.

There have been many times when I have been in amazing shape, and faced a pressure fighter who was better than I was used to and, lo and behold, I am ridiculously gassed by the end of the round. Your body/mind use a ton of energy when they are in danger mode. This is what people who don't actually train at a high level, namely the vast majority of fans, do not realize.

On the other side of the coin I have taken huge body shots from people who I am comfortable against and the effect isn't in the same stratosphere.
Do you think the minute in the corner + nearly 4 on top of Conor would be enough to recover from the pressure tiring him?
07-14-2015 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Source?
Mma hour, like 20 minutes or so ago, he was actually pretty unbiased in his interview.
07-14-2015 , 03:57 PM
re: Mir vs. Duffee. Are they trying to kill Mir?
07-14-2015 , 04:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by StimAbuser
Do you think the minute in the corner + nearly 4 on top of Conor would be enough to recover from the pressure tiring him?
No, it is a void from which you can only escape by being comfortable. He was holding on for dear life in the second then (smartly) went for the last ditch effort with the guillotine.

Notice he wasn't at all angry about the fight being stopped in the last seconds of the round.
07-14-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Faluzure
189 on Saturday, tuf Sunday, fights Wednesday and Saturday again, so 4 in 8 days I guess I meant.
There was an invicta on like Thursday or Friday as well.
07-14-2015 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
There was an invicta on like Thursday or Friday as well.
Ah, I just meant ufc, yeah Thursday I think was invicta.
07-14-2015 , 04:43 PM
THE GOAT is back

so Fedor is a lock to go to Bellator or he just going to crush Russian cans in M1?
07-14-2015 , 04:44 PM
Hmmmmm. No clue what to make of that at the moment. Can't bring myself to be excited just yet. Could be... interesting?
07-14-2015 , 04:45 PM
Only really gonna care if he goes to the UFC, which I kind of doubt. He's probably going to want a bunch of money which he probably won't get since he isn't really that big of a star anymore.

Here's for hoping though.
07-14-2015 , 04:49 PM
My initial thoughts as well. A couple of Bellator goof-fights could be fun. But I want the real deal dammit!!!!
07-14-2015 , 05:11 PM
1 freakshow vs Lesnar, cash in millions, retire again.
07-14-2015 , 05:13 PM
if his god wants him to get millions
07-14-2015 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofcool
1 freakshow vs Lesnar, cash in millions, retire again.
This was the rumor about a month ago, long before this news broke.
07-14-2015 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Don
No, it is a void from which you can only escape by being comfortable. He was holding on for dear life in the second then (smartly) went for the last ditch effort with the guillotine.

Notice he wasn't at all angry about the fight being stopped in the last seconds of the round.
I'd have to rewatch but it seemed like he had a really easy time controlling Conor in the 2nd. Conor wasn't threatening with submissions, subs, or anything really. I'd think he would be pretty comfortable there.

God I hope Aldo vs Conor happens in 2015.
07-14-2015 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
This was the rumor about a month ago, long before this news broke.
That's been a rumor for forever, and Lesnar just signed a new contract and isn't allowed to compete in MMA.

Is m-1 still having events? if so he'll probably fight some cans in that. Otherwise, Kimbo in bellator.

I'd be pretty pumped if he signed with the UFC, even though he's 38 and got KO'd by Hendo. Sadly I think most top 5 HW's maul him.
07-14-2015 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
God I hope Aldo vs Conor happens in 2015.
Why? If it happens in 2016 you will have more time to collect dough. Given a large enough bet you could probably make more than either of the fighters.
07-14-2015 , 05:44 PM
Honestly, both fighters did better than I thought they would in some ways and worse in others.

I think a lot of people are misjudging what Conor was good or bad at based on his game plan. His game plan was to get Chad tired and win in the later rounds if he was down on the score card. He was willing to lay in the guard and eat some elbows as long as he didn't put himself in a spot to be finished. Conor conceded certain things in order to get his objective plan accomplished and it worked even better than a lot of people would have expected.
07-14-2015 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofcool
Why? If it happens in 2016 you will have more time to collect dough. Given a large enough bet you could probably make more than either of the fighters.
If I've given the impression I think Aldo's a lock then I've misrepresented myself. Conor might have the best offensive striking in all of MMA. I just don't think his stock rose a lot with his win over Mendes, as weird as that is to say.

Hard to predict what kind of game plan Aldo comes in with as well.

I would drop a pretty big bet on Frankie if they were even close to even odds.
07-14-2015 , 06:19 PM
I'm hearing fedor couture, little interest, but would watch. Will watch him fight a paper bag though.
07-14-2015 , 06:23 PM
You didn't misrepresent yourself i was just being silly.

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Mir may actually die tomorrow. Or he may win. But probably die.
07-14-2015 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
Honestly, both fighters did better than I thought they would in some ways and worse in others.

I think a lot of people are misjudging what Conor was good or bad at based on his game plan. His game plan was to get Chad tired and win in the later rounds if he was down on the score card. He was willing to lay in the guard and eat some elbows as long as he didn't put himself in a spot to be finished. Conor conceded certain things in order to get his objective plan accomplished and it worked even better than a lot of people would have expected.
Conor won fair and square but to say this is just absurd. He did not put in his official gameplan 'have him take me down and struggle to get back up while whining to ref about him not letting us just bang.' He was taking damage while they were on the ground, had been mounted once, and was getting multiple power shots from in his guard. He had even started bleeding from them. Even if he was on so much cocaine and adrenaline that he couldn't 'feel' the hits, they were there and they were doing damage. If Mendes hadn't gone for and failed poorly at getting a choke, he probably finishes the round on top and maybe has a chance to recover at the end of the round.

I think if anyone is right about why he gassed, it probably is The Don. Conor's level of pressuring is phenomenal. Chad clearly wasn't comfortable with it and probably had a huge adrenaline dump that tired him out quickly. I don't know the best way to deal with such a pressuring style, but I was looking at Dillashaw's first fight w Barao and that seems to be a decent strategy. TJ moved very well and was never where Barao thought he'd be, and the constant movement vs the aggressor opened up a bunch of windows for him to hit Barao.
07-14-2015 , 06:27 PM
Fedor is awesome but I have no interest in watching him against the top UFC HWs, I don't think it would go well.

I think Aldo will wreck Conor on the ground but might only get one or two chances before he gasses, especially if he really has to work for the takedowns.

      
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