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10-29-2009 , 12:51 PM
I think they may push back Anderson's fight. Vitor has said that he would like more time in addition to Anderson's elbow stuff.

I want to know when the Shogun-Machida rematch will be. In terms of how skilled and evenly matched the fighters are, this is the best fight we'll get in a long time, and we're getting it twice!

Anderson is great, and Vitor is looking good recently, but how can this not be a blowout. Since it's for the title it may just be 5 rounds of picking shots, but Vitor can't come out ahead here.

Lesnar and Carwin bring size to the table and wrestling too I guess. If it wasn't for their wrestling backgrounds and the fact that they're Americans, they'd be coheadlining with Bob Sapp in some freakshow tourney in Osaka.
10-29-2009 , 12:53 PM
And is it just me or has the 155 division in the ufc been really boring recently. I'm not excited for any of the fights. And Aldo-Brown is more interesting than Penn-Sanchez.
10-29-2009 , 12:59 PM
fwiw I am starting to like Vitor more. After reading a few of those "you have to ko or sub the champion" quotes from other fighters, I was happy to see this. well, of course he's gonna say this since he has to fight Anderson but still

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Vitor Belfort: “I don’t like that idea that to beat the champion you have to be way superior. To beat the champion, you only have to win. It doesn’t matter how, just a victory, even when the level of the fighters is very high today. I think Shogun hit more and deserved to win.”
10-29-2009 , 01:33 PM
has anybody else seen this pic of pavlik's staph infection?
wouldn't be shocked if he lost the hand

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10-29-2009 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
has anybody else seen this pic of pavlik's staph infection?
wouldn't be shocked if he lost the hand

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I've had a worse staph infection than that doesn't seem too terrible.
10-29-2009 , 01:48 PM
Why did they air the fight in slow motion?
10-29-2009 , 01:49 PM
he's had it for a long time
10-29-2009 , 01:53 PM
I put this in the SE thread but I'll toss it out here also. If Brock had to fight the 16 TUF guys gauntlet style (one minute between each fight) how far down the line would he get.

Me and my friend put Brock at 2.5-1 odds and the o/u of guys at 13.5
10-29-2009 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cobrakai111
I put this in the SE thread but I'll toss it out here also. If Brock had to fight the 16 TUF guys gauntlet style (one minute between each fight) how far down the line would he get.

Me and my friend put Brock at 2.5-1 odds and the o/u of guys at 13.5
Haha, pretty funny. Honestly I could see him going far. Dana would set it up so Brock would be dead tired and then Kimbo comes in last and lands a jab and Brock just faints, and the internets explodes. Fedor for this bet would be funny to, I think hes got better cardio, and he could probably sub some of the guys quicker then Brock taking them down and smashing them probably.
10-29-2009 , 04:42 PM
<3 Koscheck to death. The guy just loves to fight and will fight tommorow if you pay him; seriously gives wrestlers a good name. Hope he can Rumble's power and athletic ability. GSP needs to move up, so my man has a shot at the title.
10-29-2009 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyPatriot
Mousasi's gonna roll Sokoudjou.
He needs to be in the UFC. There are so many amazing fight possibilities where in Strikeforce there really isn't anybody left. Though if Henderson signs with Strikeforce, that would be a sick fight!
10-29-2009 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
All anyone can ever say about this fight in favor of Machida is that it wasn't as bad of a robbery as people make it out to be. It's not like anyone thinks he actually won. It just wasn't a COMPLETELY awful decision (only mostly awful).
I was one of those people adamant that Rua destroyed Machida at first glance. I still think it is a clear victory for Rua after re-watching a few times, but it wasn't the domination I thought it was at first. There were a lot of flurries where Machida did well, but they always ended with Rua having the word (big leg or body kick).
10-29-2009 , 05:28 PM
“You just have to look at my face and his (Lyoto). I didn’t suffer one kick, only some knees but he has a rib broken neither get to walk and his mouth is stitched. They made some fighting analysis and I landed the double of hits. Will the judges say they didn’t see that? They will speak anything to justify the result. I feel pissed for my score (18-4), I prize a lot for it and I don’t consider this loss. I didn’t meet Lyoto after the fight but he’s a man I respect so much. He’s blameless, it’s judges’ culprit. Only them say the fight that way. I don’t blame Machida at all.”
-Shogun
10-29-2009 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
“You just have to look at my face and his (Lyoto). I didn’t suffer one kick, only some knees but he has a rib broken neither get to walk and his mouth is stitched. They made some fighting analysis and I landed the double of hits. Will the judges say they didn’t see that? They will speak anything to justify the result. I feel pissed for my score (18-4), I prize a lot for it and I don’t consider this loss. I didn’t meet Lyoto after the fight but he’s a man I respect so much. He’s blameless, it’s judges’ culprit. Only them say the fight that way. I don’t blame Machida at all.”
-Shogun
Not to side with either fighter, but both of them are being delusional in their post fight interviews. Shogun cant honestly say he was not kicked once in that fight, come on, and Lyoto cant say his legs didn't hurt after the fight, and Shogun screamed when Ninja picked up after round 5 out loud from his ribs, they both beat each other up, overall I think Lyoto took more damage, but its like Fedor having more visible damage after beating cro cop and using that as a point.
10-29-2009 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
“You just have to look at my face and his (Lyoto). I didn’t suffer one kick, only some knees but he has a rib broken neither get to walk and his mouth is stitched. They made some fighting analysis and I landed the double of hits. Will the judges say they didn’t see that? They will speak anything to justify the result. I feel pissed for my score (18-4), I prize a lot for it and I don’t consider this loss. I didn’t meet Lyoto after the fight but he’s a man I respect so much. He’s blameless, it’s judges’ culprit. Only them say the fight that way. I don’t blame Machida at all.”
-Shogun
Man... I don't know what the **** you just said, Little Kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother heart.
10-29-2009 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by zyrrth
has anybody else seen this pic of pavlik's staph infection?
wouldn't be shocked if he lost the hand

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Not that bad
10-29-2009 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by littlekeed
Seems like the coaches should be stressing cardio over anything else.
I don't know the exact time frame but these guys taped the entire show in 6 weeks. It is their own fault for coming in out of shape and not being able to go 2 rounds. I am guessing each of these first round fights happened within 2 weeks-3 weeks of getting into the house so that isn't enough time at all to establish any sort of cardio or even much training, for that matter.
10-29-2009 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by caught_clean
Not to side with either fighter, but both of them are being delusional in their post fight interviews. Shogun cant honestly say he was not kicked once in that fight, come on, and Lyoto cant say his legs didn't hurt after the fight, and Shogun screamed when Ninja picked up after round 5 out loud from his ribs, they both beat each other up, overall I think Lyoto took more damage, but its like Fedor having more visible damage after beating cro cop and using that as a point.
I don't think either of them are being delusional at all. Shogun thinks he won 4 rounds to 1. Although I guess Machida thinking that he nearly finished Shogun "3 or 4 times" is kind of delusional.
10-29-2009 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by agdci981
I don't know the exact time frame but these guys taped the entire show in 6 weeks. It is their own fault for coming in out of shape and not being able to go 2 rounds. I am guessing each of these first round fights happened within 2 weeks-3 weeks of getting into the house so that isn't enough time at all to establish any sort of cardio or even much training, for that matter.
btw, was anyone else amazed at Shogun's cardio in that fight? For a lot of people cardio was big question mark, and he definitely answered that in full. When he first came on the scene in Pride, he was actually praised for his cardio and insane pacing. the energizer bunny. That was mostly due to him being young and not cutting weight though (Overeem would still gas even at 23 due to cutting weight)

Now his cardio is great because he was criticized for it and decided that it was the main thing he wanted to improve.
10-29-2009 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
And is it just me or has the 155 division in the ufc been really boring recently. I'm not excited for any of the fights. And Aldo-Brown is more interesting than Penn-Sanchez.
Penn-Sanchez has the potential to be really good. Diego is a ****ing maniac and is one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC. He's also never even been close to being KOed or submitted. Even if he doesn't have the skills to beat BJ, I think it will be a really exciting fight.
10-29-2009 , 07:26 PM
Florian is a black belt in bjj and has never been submitted before that fight. BJ sub'd him so easy it looked like Fedor was rematching Coleman for the third time.

I give Diego an edge in cardio, and I think he has a reach advantage. But BJ's cardio at 155 is definitely good enough to handle this fight. His striking his better (although Diego's striking has improved quite a bit), his bjj is miles ahead of Diego's, and I also feel that he would be stronger physically.

I think Diego can make this an exciting fight, but he has very little chance of winning.
10-29-2009 , 08:44 PM
I cant imagine BJ being stronger than Diego who used to fight at 170 and BJ being a not all that big 155er.

His pace is also incredible and I think he can wear BJ out if it goes long enough. I dont think he wins, but ill be rooting for him.
10-29-2009 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Count Chocula
Lesnar and Carwin bring size to the table and wrestling too I guess. If it wasn't for their wrestling backgrounds and the fact that they're Americans, they'd be coheadlining with Bob Sapp in some freakshow tourney in Osaka.
In other news, if it wasn't for Fedor's sambo training, he would be some boring Russian dude in Stary Oskol.
10-29-2009 , 08:55 PM
bj/diego should be fun as hell. i expect it to pretty much be a boxing match
10-29-2009 , 09:45 PM
Diego has the edge in strength and conditioning, and maybe wrestling, but that's it. Both are a little crazy (see BJ drinking blood and Diego in any interview) so I'm excited to see them fight.

      
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