And because Rogan tweeted it then it must be true.

but really I do think he got poked in the eye and didn't waste time just to try and get the point deduction. the ref already took away a point, and kos still took a few more minutes before resuming.

Finally got a chance to watch the fight. Was busy on the wknd with UFC etc.

SOG!SOG!SOG!!!! I also got him before the match at +200 I knew he was under appreciated! Kinda "lurked" through google and did search and couldnt find anyone going with Ward. I bet everyones gonna bandwagon him now.

Ive been looking for this too

Ive never seen bestfightodds look so bare.... creepy.

Chuck Zito is awesome. I wish he could've gotten into MMA when he was younger.

Illinois doesn't release fighter salaries

what does that have to dowith alves vs daley

lol.

Meh I got nothing to add so

He obviously quoted the wrong post.

lol.

lmao wow that pic is gold.

Does anyone listen to Josh Gross' podcast?

After UFC 105, he had Rogan on, talking about judging. Rogan said they should get a people from "the forums" to be judges for MMA.

Who would be a worse judge - Cecil Peoples or random sherdogger?

cecil peoples

sherdog worse than SE?

Sherdog is MMA's version of 2p2, You have quality posters and you have bad ones.

its more like NVG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8k-ryjGCvw

i don't think that many forum posters would work

but if you took people like mikey patriot and a few other posters that turned their love into article's and are neck deep in their love of the sport- surely the judging would improve.


really the 10 point must is just not a valid method of scoring in MMA. Boxing is way easier for it to. The ground game and clinch work needs special handling to be weighted properly imo.

Heavyweights yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MquJcd4RetI

the other day i rewatched nog - shogun, what a sick fight the rematch would be after shogun beats machida again

yeah, I've watched that fight about 10 times I'd say (dvds!). Rematch would be a great fight. But Shogun takes a decision for sure. Unless it's 5 rounds for the title, maybe he could finish. Don't see how Nog could win though.

lol sherdog rankings, Shields is the #7 middleweight and Hioki is the #7 fw, wtf! Omigawa takes a rigged decision over him and is now #6... Someone also pointed out that Diego Sanchez is not a top 10 lightweight. Which isn't completely ridiculous considering his wins, but Hirota, Hansen (hasn't won in ages), and Sherk all do make the top 10 somehow.

OK guys. Good boxing card this weekend. From Quebec City.

Headline:

Lucian Bute v Librado Andrade 2.

This is for the IBF 168 lb strap. These guys are generally considered the best two super middles outside of the super six.

Lucian Bute



24 (19) - 0 - 0 record.

Romanian born, but hugely popular in Montreal, Quebec, where he fights out of. Very nice boxing skills. HOWEVER, his first match with Andrade had one of the very, very most controversial endings in recent years and maybe of any title fight, ever! You can watch it thanks to the guys at youtube (link below). Here's the summary of the fight up until then: Bute dominated Andrade the first 9 round, landing a lot without taking much punishment in return. In the tenth, he decked Andrade (I can't actually remember, I think it was more of a slip type thing?). Anyway, after a very one sided fight, Bute starts to get tired, and Andrade comes on strong. In the 12th, ........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vz0x...eature=related

(spoilers from her on in guys!)

naturally, the referee taking a few seconds off to tell a guy who was already in the corner, to stay in the corner, just as the hometown boxer is struggling to beat the count, was seen as slightly controversial. For my mind, Bute did not get fully vertical until after 10 seconds, and should have lost. Regardless of whether he beat the count or not, the decision of the referee to choose that moment to take a short time out was incredibly suspicious and left a very bitter taste in my mouth. For this reason, I believe most boxing fans shall root this weekend for:

Librado Andrade



28(21) - 0 - 0

Librado Andrade turned pro with a 3-10-0 amateur record. He is not Pernell Whittaker. He gets hit, a lot. Hurting him though, is a much harder task. When you fight Andrade, train for 12 rounds. That said his skills can compete with all but the top guys in the division, and he has decent pop. Got shut out by Mikkel Kessler in 2007 (all three judges scored the bout 120-108), and is 4-1 since, his sole loss being the highly controversial points defeat to Bute. This fight is a very big deal in Quebec, and I'd expect the atmosphere to be excellent.

Pinnacle Sports current line is Andrade + 292, Bute - 333.

Main Undercard bout - Joan Guzman v Ali Funeka (Vacant IBF 135lb title

Joan Guzman



29(17) - 0 - 0

One of the best pure boxers in the sport. Many people gave him a very good chance indeed of defeating a 135lb Pacquiao. However, has only one fight in two years since the best win of his career, a UD v Humberto Soto. Further, his last 8 fights going back more than 5 years, have all gone to decision. Thus this Dominican pugilist who 3-4 years ago was seen as one of the best lb for lb boxers in the world has drifted from the front pages.

However, he is involved in a genuinely intruiging and high quality match up this weekend against

Ali Funeka



30(25) - 2 - 0

At 6 foot 1, Funeka normally towers over his 135 lb opponents. In July 2008, Funeka faced Zaheer Raheem in South Africa. For those who don't remember, Raheem shut out Morales over 12, before el terrible was shot, and then dropped a (bad) split decision to Acelino Freitas. The result?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWl8ioIPv-0

This earned Funeka a shot at Nate Campbell, widely considered the true 135lb champ in February of this year. This was a very nice fight that I'd recommend you check out.

In the second and eleventh rounds, Funeka got dropped hard. In the OMG, he won't make it out of the round sense of 'hard'. Yet he did, and he earned a 113-113 draw on Howard Lederman's card. Campbell shipped a 115-111, 114-112, 113-113 majority decision, but that Funeka won 5, 6 & 7 rounds on the judges' scorecards, v a quality operator like Nate Campbell, indicates he is for real.

i just wanted to be clear about the rule in that bute fight. when they say you can't be saved by the bell, does that mean that after a knockdown where the bell rings during the count, the fighter has to beat the count and then be ready to box again, just like a knockdown during an earlier round? or do you simply have to make it to your feet before the 10 count?

the ref didn't even have bute step to him to show that his legs were under him. and if you watch after the fight is over, he is still barely able to wobble over to his corner. It seemed to me that the fight should have been stopped before the final knockdown. bute wasn't defending himself at all and was basically out on his feet. it also pissed me off that bute was holding, and everytime the ref broke them he was pushing andrade back, even though andrade was trying to seperate to fight. it seemed like he was giving bute extra time to recover.

Saved by the bell means that you can't get counted out if you get knocked down and the bell rings before the count is out. It was not in effect during the Bute - Andrade fight iirc.

Yea, I was hyped to see lil Nog in the UFC finally, then he comes out with a bang and blew away even my high expectations. A rematch with Shogun would be awesome regardless. I kinda feel bad for Shogun though, because no matter what your thoughts are on the first Lyoto match, I don't see how Shogun is anything but at a disadvantage in the 2nd fight, especially with Lyoto being out for so long and being able to change alot of things.