contrary to popular belief, motocross (yes dirtbike racing) is WAY up on the list, very close to soccer.


220lb bike, 30 min +2 lap moto (twice), it's a SUPER demanding sport cardio wise- dudes have amazing gastanks.

The problem with MMA judging right now is it rewards stalling. If you just clinch your opponent up against the fence you get the edge, bare hug him inside his guard you get the edge, pin him in side mount, merely defend a takedown.

I think fights should be based on 3 criteria.

Damage inflicted. If I was in a fight, at the end if I inflicted more damage to my opponent than he put on me, I'd feel like I won the fight. I think this is the most important criteria to judge and we should only look at the others when this is close. So quantity and quality of strikes landed.

2nd and 3rd would be attempts to finish the fight and aggression. Attempt to finish is close submission attempts and coming close to finishing it through strikes. So if fighters were equal in damage I'd look at who had their opponent defending more submissions. Aggression to me means pursuing the other two, strikes and submissions. Not spending 2 minutes attempting a takedown. Or caging your opponent. It means pursuing him with strikes standing or on the ground, and attacking him with submissions.

I think positions shouldn't be scored on their merit alone. If the mount is so good, you'll score off it by your effective striking and submission attempts. If you aren't able to do anything from mount but pin your opponent, then why should that score significant points? You also don't score points from defending takedown attempts. All that does is leave you even with your opponent. Gotta damage your opponent or put him at risk of tap'ing.

These rules would make for more exciting fights, and more accurate judging where the guy who beat his opponent up or really put the pressure on him would win the decision.

+1 on this, had several friends who were serious about motorcross when they were a bit younger, crazy demanding

I think that you are looking at this wrong. Most professional athletes are going to be in amazing condition for the kind of activity that there sport requires. MMA fighters are required to be able to go for multiple five minute rounds. An NFL player would never want to set up there workout to be able to do that. They want to be as explosive as possible for a very short period.

yeah, those guys are. but the 500th best player in the NFL is still an insane, NFL caliber athlete. the 6th best welterweight (ok not really) is paulo thiago

Some people already now this, but the guy who narrowly beat Brock for the college HW championship in Brock's junior year was Stephen Neal, who is currently a starting O-lineman for the Patriots despite not playing football in college.

Faber wouldn't be a walk over for any fighter. I think Aldo would take a comfortable decision though. But would have to be an exciting fight and I would love to see Faber get a shot soon.

What a triangle that would make if Faber gets a title shot and takes Aldos strap.

I was also thinking about how messed up it could make the wec if Aldo decided to go down to 135. He could probably take the belt there too but then they'll almost never be airing title defenses. And if he loses then the 135 champ is better than the 145 champ? weird stuff when it comes to moving down.

Agreed on point 2...
But your way wrong about grip and bench... There is a huge and obvious correlation between someones bench press and their grip strength. You would have to be ******ed not too see that correlation. I challenge you to find someone with a 400 lb bench press with a weak grip....You WONT find him.

This is even more pronounced with individuals with little strength training yet have sick natural bench press strength...They are gonna be stong every where else and grip strength is no exception.

I dont wanna turn this into a strength and conditioning thread but saying grip has nothing to do with bench is really naive. I dunno how much weight training experience you have but do some research on how grip strength helps a bench press.You will learn that saying "bench press has NOTHING to do with grip" is absurd.

wow i hate karo. He backs out of every goddamn fight. I was really excited to see hazelett. ..his armar on josh burkman is one of my favorite submissions ever

I'm really excited for this card. Amir and NYBA is LOL and I love it! Kos and Rumble is going to be fun too. The consensus is that Josh will hold Rumble down and pound him to a decision or what? Rumble's tank expires early after take downs and not being able to KO him? I need to watch the Clementi fight.

koscheck has taken down something like one fighter in 4 years

yeah im putting money onto a sportsbook just to bet it on baroni. Amir has 0 chance imo.

kind of my opinion on it except i think rumble gets finished. Koscheck doesn't have brutal gnp but rumble has no ground game so I can see him going full chimpanzee on him. I'm sure that after the paulo thiago loss, kos isn't going to play around with the standup too much.

you really think so? this isn't a fight that I'm interested in like everyone else. People are just excited to see Baroni back in the ufc. But I really think Baroni will gas and Amir will sub him late or take a decision.

but you're the guy with the baroni avatar so maybe i'm not completely alone

I agree 100%. If the guy would have started playing football in Pop Warner, it is scary what he would be able to do on a football field on any level.

But that is just it.... 1 amazing athlete in the UFC with very little MMA experience is dominating. You don't think the same would apply at other weight limits?

He didn't make it because of his age. The fact that he made the final cut shows exactly how good of an athlete he is.

Basically Brock had no clue what he was doing on a football field, but his sheer size+power+athletic ability+motor almost got him on the team. He would have been a project and he was simply too old to develop. If he would have tried out after college, he would have made the team. It had absolutely nothing to do with his name.

I think baroni has a solid 1.5 rounds and will KO him within that time, and if not can gut out another 1.5 and hopefully get semi-lucky and KO him. Its also definitely not crazy to have baroni solidly win R1, edge out R2 and lose R3 to win a decision

How good are Amirs takedowns?

Yeah but he got KO'd by Paulo and he knows what a beast Rumble is on the feet. You still think he'll try and stand?

i moreso think that kos might not be a great wrestler anymore

ok, you caught me i have no idea what i'm takling about.

pressing infinitely stresses the grip muscles, you're correct sir. despite the bar being basically straightlined to the forearm causing no need to grip the bar like gravity is pulling it down out of your hand

you're definitely right..

a 400lb bench press guy wouldn't have a weak grip cause his BP is just SO massive, it probably has nothing to do that he also does a lot of work on other excercises that actually strain his hand strength.


what are you blabbering about dude. bp stresses tri shoulders and pecs primarily. this is not something you're going to make me reevaluate no matter how many times you say naive or insinuate that i'm clueless.

look at the design of the body and path of movement of the excercise, and then just stop talking.

rofl

Can anybody legit here make a $500 trade with me.. 500 on 5d for cash on ftp?

These caved-in stomachs during weigh in are so disgusting.