I agree with DO that Lesnar would be a slight favorite over Nog. If Lesnar ever commits to the jab then he will be a highly favored.

you forgot BJ Penn.

bj is ****ing awesome and my favorite fighter but he's not quite on their level in the striking department.

But he dominates standing up in his weight class as much as they ever did.

Plus he has sick ground skills. Man I ****ing love BJ Penn. GSP Penn rematch will be sick.

What's being highlighted in dudes hand in that last gif?

LoL very nice DO.

Who was that kid anyway? A little too young to be watching combat sports IMO but it aint my kid so LOL.

From the aired perspective, the ending strikes in the Lesnar match looked tame. But they look brutal here:

The guy in the red jacket is seemingly disgusted at the guy's kissing.

They showed that kid during the UFC event. He was at the fight, obv, since he's Lesnar's number 1 fan.

BJ Penn arguably has the best boxing in the UFC, if not MMA. Guys like Freddie Roach have come out to compliment him.

I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree in regards to the differences between "good/great" and "effective." In my opinion, using your logic if Brock Lesnar beats Marcelo Garcia in a grappling match, Lesnar would have better jiu jitsu. That's just counter intuitive and, again in my opinion, wrong.

As for Lesnar/Nogueira, I think it's silly to point out the Herring high kick without also pointing out that Nog tore him apart standing for the other 13 minutes of the fight. Yes, he got picked apart by Sylvia, but that should be expected given Sylvia's skill level and size. I do think Brock will probably have an advantage based on his size, speed, and power, but I really don't think Nog's standup has looked "middling to poor" in his last two fights.

As for who's favored...I'm not sure. My gut instincts have Nog has a slight favorite. Frank Mir brought up a good point on MMA Live's post-fight coverage. As every bit as hard as it is to find guys to emulate Lesnar in the gym, it's just as hard to find guys Mir or Nogueira's size who have their level of jiu-jitsu acumen.

Brock looked impressive Saturday, but he wasn't perfect. Randy was able to get up twice relatively easily in the first round and had the ability to push him up on the cage at times. That isn't to say that Nog will have the same things in their fight, but I think it points out that Lesnar is still growing as a fighter, and has some holes to shore up.

Of the list of fighters i said i would take at +100 over Brock TODAY, Nog was by no means at the top of the list, Lesnar has some huge holes in his game but Nog isn't necessarily the guy to exploit them, with that said, offered +100 on this fight, if it happened tommorow, i would jump on it.

I also think we should clear up the difference between dropping someone and a KO, from what i have seen, a big hole Brock has in his standup is not the power he has but his defence and speed, if we see a heavyweight, who is has worldclass standup with good takedown defence we see a totally different Lesnar

watching the gifs, imagine if brock didn't panic and start hammering and was elbowing in that spot?

omfg would randy have been just busted up beyond belief, holy **** did he take some hits.

just watched it finally, what a sweet card.

Of course looks matter. It's a lot easier to convince casual fans that this man is dangerous:



Than this man

^^^^

Great post. Genuine LOL.

Here's a link to that sick Jeremy Stephens uppercut if you haven't seen it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5joLfDhHNUc

GSP to get A Silva if he gets through Penn.

the UFC right now.

Thanks for the link cobra, that's one of the nastiest punches I've seen in MMA (or boxing, come to think of it).

where'd you see this?

not a good thing for gsp fans.

It's all over the MMA media right now. There's a youtube video of a press conference Dana, BJ, and GSP did in Toronto where he says it.

I think BJ's going to beat GSP though.

yea, right after i posted i remembered reading the quotes


even more reason imo to root for penn, i dont know if i would want to see what anderson is going to do to gsp

if penn wins, then he fights at 155 vs florian? and then back at 170 vs thiago alves? i want penn to win just so he can fight more dudes at 170.

i'm gonna be sad if it goes to the 4th or 5th and penn gets tired though. i don't think for a second he'll come into the fight in bad shape, i just don't think he has the natural gas tank that some of these dudes have. i also hope he just weighs in at like 160.

In not one of those Gifs are any of the decent shots Randy landed, I thought Randy was starting to take over in round two... well even Dana said that and Brock nodded in agreement, so GTFO with this Brock dominated the fight 100% stuff, Randy did very well, but Brock is getting better every fight.