^^^THIS.

That may be true, I don't know. I am not sure why someone in an unlimited weight class would cut then add weight. I get it if you are trying to make a lower weight. Anyway, I don't see that kind of water weight as an advantage, particularly if he makes a habit of dropping and adding. How dependable is the 280 number anyway?

As I said I got the numbers from sherdog. I am looking forward to Inside MMA tonight they have a teaser on sherdog in which they talk about Brock's antics after the Mir fight. Looks interesting.

Grunching....

WEC 43: Cerrone vs. Henderson in early September

WEC 45: Brown vs. Aldo in mid November

When/Who is WEC 44?

Faber will not even be close to healthy yet. Varner's still hurt and his next fight back will be vs. the winner of Cerrone vs. Henderson anyway (more than likely). Torres can't possibly be expected to headline WEC 42 and WEC 44 in a two month span will he? Who else could headline a WEC event besides the fighters mentioned above?

Do not say Pulver lol

Edit: I miss Cantwell and the rest of the WEC LHWs

you can only weigh 265 at heavy weight. he cuts to get there. It's not an unlimited weight class.

It's not unlimited. The upper limit is 265. Brock has to cut to make that.

The 280 number is as dependable as any other fighter's "walking around" weight reports, AFAIK.

BJ Jumps out of a pool

Thanks guys! I actually had no idea that was the case in the UFC nowadays. That makes much more sense.

Impressive!

Good luck with the Gunnars. ; )

I meant that I'm guessing about 40% chance of Fedoring winning by tko or ko.

Lesnar is much stronger than Fedor. But even Randy was able to do a good job handling Lesnar's strength, so I think Fedor should not have too much trouble in the clinch.

In pure punching power alone, they will be evenly matched, with a possible edge going towards Brock. But in actual standup fighting, everything considered, Fedor has a huge edge. Arlovski could barely tag him despite his speed, Lesnar has virtually no boxing at all and I doubt he will land a single shot on Fedor standing. His only chance is to repeat what he did against Mir.

This is what people thought would be Brock's best strategy for the fight against Mir. But Mir clearly did his best work on the feet, and Brock's best work was on top. And of course, Mir's stand up is not anywhere in the same league as Fedor, and we should expect the same comparison for Lesnar.

I wish they would get flyweight started already, it would definitely help fill out their cards.

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Why do people think Fedor/brock couldn't go to decision? I think it could easily be a lot like Randy/Brock but with fedor not getting caught given his standup ability. Nobody really knows, but Brock seems like he'd be a pretty tough dude to knock out and too strong/explosive to probably not get submitted by anything but a leg lock, which I'm positive he's trained a ton to defend since Mir 1.

I don't think it is impossible to go to a decision at all. That analysis makes sense. We can't know what Brock's chin is like when it is tested. We just have to wait. You just can never know that. It isn't fun, I promise and I would rather have a sister working in a house of ill repute than have someone say I have a great beard because the point is to hit and not get hit, but I can take a lick.
I am sure that he has trained a ton, but not against FEDOR. Joe Rogan mentioned how hard it would be to get a sparring partner that was like Brock, the same is certainly true of Fedor. There just isn't anyone that can do what he can.
It will be a blast!

There aren't any LHWs in WEC anymore...or MW/WW for that matter, they have all been absorbed by the UFC or are fighting elsewhere. I would guess on Razor Rob being on the card somewhere, but jesus, they are really throwing all their talent at 42/43. Every time I think of a possible top-shelf matchup one of the guys (or both) are already booked.

I think it can go to a decision. But if it does go to a decision, it would probably be a result of Lesnar laying on Fedor for 5 rounds (and therefore a Lesnar victory considering the ufc judges).

I just don't think it would go to a decision in favor of Fedor is all.

Also, Lesnar admitted to being rocked by the flying knee that Mir threw at him. I'm sure he does not have a big nog chin.

Tyson and Holyfield both know how to box. Lesnar does not. I don't see how he is going to land a single punch on Fedor standing.

A few things i sorta wanted to mention reading over the previous several posts:

Everyone talks about how in a year Brock will be way way better, but i think not taking enough into consideration that Brock does not have a monopoly on improving. To me personally one of the best parts of MMA/sports in general is watching how these guys get so so so much better year in and year out, and even though it's far more obvious when a guy that really sucked in some area now does not (or way less), the guy that was really good before isn't sitting at home eating potato chips all day either. So to me, the whole Brock-will-be-unstoppable-in-another-year argument, i don't think so. He may be special in terms of size/athleticism, but he is playing catchup even as everyone else is still pulling away at the same time.

...on the other hand, i haven't watched too much pro wrestling lately but having seeing it in the past i don't understand why we can't agree that someone insane enough to do something like that has the pain tolerance to match. In other words, I'd be willing to bet that Brock's chin is as good as anybody elses in the UFC and quite possibly better than the majority's even, considering that in martial arts you condition your body but train not to get hit, while in pro wrestling you are basically training to get ****ed up out of this world while putting on a show.

One final thing, Brock's lack of crisp, technical boxing isn't as major of a disadvantage as it would be for most, again because of sheer size and power that he brings to the table. It goes only so far, obviously, but when you're Brock "so far" can be far enough, and has been... so far

Big Nog might not even have a Big Nog chin anymore.

gatti ward I-III on hbo right now. pretty much the greatest fights ever.

You have to factor in diminishing returns on someone like Fedor's improvement. Besides S&C, he almost might as well be eating potato chips on his plateau of greatness. I'm obv exaggerating a little for effect but Brock's improvement and learning curve has to be like a million times greater than Fedor's at this point. As the king kong of wrestling and GnP, he only really needs to play catch up on sub defense and just never ever stand in front of Fedor lol

It is true that they were both experienced boxers when they first fought. My point was that Tyson had extreme striking power, but it was unable to be utilized effectively against Holyfield for many reasons, amongst which are that Holyfield was an extremely dirty fighter.
Lesnar has shown the ability to hit people, and Fedor is not that extremely elusive a target as for it to be out of the question for him to be hit. Further, if Brock hits Fedor it will be uncomfortable to be sure, no matter how durable one is. This is the very avatar of the punchers chance. Much like down to the very last second Thiago Alves still had outs in the fight against GSP. He didn't have a huge draw...but he had outs to be sure.

ban plz

It seems that way. It's amazing that his chin lasted as long as it did though.

Brock landed on his head trying to do a shooting star press and still what able to finish the match whatever that's worth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxt_...om=PL&index=14

lol