Thanks for all the links, will read them all. As I said I play pretty nitty but Ill try to steal more.

Ive read one of the micro guides before, and I thought I remembered it saying not to steal as much at 2 and 5nl? Could be mistaken obviously.

No you are somewhat correct as at 2 nl and 5 nl you will get called more from the blinds so stealing with K3s might not be as good of an idea as say it might be at 25 or 50 NL. Just start reading everything around here and start replying to hands as much as you can right or wrong it will make you better. Once you get to 500-1000 posts you will really see your knowlegde really growing.

I stole ~40% at 5nl, IMO at these stakes see it less as stealing for stealing sake and more of "playing a non-trash hand IP against a weaker player who will over commit in spots I dominate post flop".

I think I need to subtract 400 of my post count then, as so much of what I wrote initially was utter crap lol.

Thats a good point, thanks

pick your spots though, think about stack sizes, likely ranges, what players will stack off with etc, whether they'll 3B hands you hands like AT+ pre, etc

I'm a former weak-tight nit trying to get better. I made a lot of money at 10NL being a multitable nit and about 8 weeks ago I moved up to 25NL. Recently, I've been trying to take advantage of the courses available available at Stox to try to improve my game and get out of my nitty tendencies because while I was making money, I knew I could do better.

Anyway, here are my former stats by position (just at 25NL, my 10NL stats are very similar):



For individual hands, all my pairs were profitable, as were all my suited connectors down through about 87s.

In the last two weeks, I've been making a conscious effort to not be so nitty, and to try to be more aggressive and confident. I think I've done that, or least I'm on my way to doing that. Since making that conscious effort to change my style, these are now my stats:



I noticed my VPIP 4 off the button was a little high in the new stats, but it's probably due to the small sample size. From whatever position, you can see that I now usually raise or fold preflop, whereas I was raising less than half the time when I was entering pots in my previous nitdom. I'm very happy with my improvement in steal attempts from the CO, BTN, and SB (38% overall up from 14%), and I like that I'm incorporating PF 3betting more. I also like that my W$WSF is up to 41% when it used to be 33%.

On the other hand, while my WTSD percentage is about the same, my W$SD is down slightly from 53% to 47%. From that aspect, I think I need to reclaim a bit of my former nittiness when it comes down to actually having to show down my hand. I don't know if that's just the small sample size, though.

Based on my new stats, I was wondering if someone could confirm that I'm on the right track or perhaps suggest some areas of improvement. (My Cbet Flop stat comes to mind; it's always been high even when I was a nit, but is it too high generally? As a general rule of thumb, I won't Cbet the flop with more than 2 opponents unless I've hit the board hard anyway.) Are there other stats I should be monitoring?

I'm stealing over 50% at 2NL with over 65% success rate. Having a HUD with people's stats really helps.

Yes steal more. Definatly do it with caution at this level and it may not be as profitable as you like but it will help you open up your game for when you move up. You are already beating the stake but you need to move to start crushing these stakes. Once you move up a level or two your ATS will be your bread and butter. Also I am not sure about CCPF but that seems high for some reason to me. (am I right or wrong on this, Im not sure what a good range is here but I know it is discouraged) Make sure when you are set mining you are doing it right (multiway pots with deep stack sizes)

Your stats are steal fairly new for your new style and you are probably still adjusting to the new style so it will take a bit longer to get a good view of what it will look like. Based on that disclaimer, It looks like you are definatly on the right track. Your VPIP is good in that it is a lot bigger in LP then EP but I think it still is adjusting due to the sample size. ATS% is good. CBet% is high IMO. You will start getting eaten alive by the regs with this %. Probably again due to the sample size. Post again when you get some more hands and we can due a better analysis of your new style but so far so good and looks a ton better then your old style. Good luck!

Wow, this thread has helped me so much. TY to OP and other posters here.

Very confused about one thing though.

From my own PT stats I understand that "Raise First In %" (RFI) = "Att. To Steal Blinds" (ASB) for Button, Cut-off and SB.

For Charger in 07's stats posted in first post I see these numbers as 9.46%, 9.85%, and 5.50% respectively.

My stats are RFI 17.18%, 15.15%, and 11.93% for Button, Cut-off and SB respectively, which match almost exactly my ASB numbers of 17.18%, 15.08%, and 11.93%. Only the cut-off number varies by 0.07% for some reason.

Now when I look in the "General Section" Under $1NL the ASB % is an average of the 3 (15.01%).

So now I don't understand how Charger07's ASB is 30.54% when his RFI numbers are all less than 10%

I'm sure I'm just overlooking something obvious or confused about their being no difference between RFI and ASB....

Thanks to anybody who can clear this up for me. I notice my RFI % are much higher, but my ASB average in the general section is much lower compared to the posted stats so I'm pretty confused.

Raised first in is th % that you open raise (first to raise without limpers) from any position

Attempt to steals is the % that you open raise from Cutoff Button or Small Blind

Also, Raised first in includes your attempt to steal.

Yes I understand that part, but it still seems impossible that Charger07 and other posting their stats here have raise first in % 9.85% max on button, cut-off, sb, yet 30% att to steal blinds in general stats....

Since raised first in include attempt to steal then the raised first in %'s should be higher that the att. to steal %'s not much much lower.

It doesn't make any sense to me

Edit: I've also considered that the Att. to steal in the general section at bottom of the stats posted here is the sum of all att. to steal on button, cut-off, and SB, but that still adds up to a max of (9.46% + 9.85% + 5.50%) = 24.81%. So it still seems impossible that att. to steal could be >30%..

Ex 1: you are UTG first to act you fold : RFI (0/1) ATS (0/0)
Ex 2: you are on the button, MP1 limps, you raise : RFI (0/1) ATS (0/0)
Ex 3: you are MP1, everyone folds to you and you raise : RFI(1/1) ATS(0/1)
Ex 4: you are on the button everyone folds to you and you raise : RFI(1/1) ATS(1/1)
Ex 5: you are on the cutoff, it is folded to you and you fold : RFI(0/1) ATS(0/1)


EDIT: awww I were wrong sorry.. RFI is (0/1) when you raise and someone has already limp or raise. So it is always lower than your PFR stats (I made changes in my examples..) So limpers count for the RFI but not for the ATS.

I really appreciate your helping with this but I don't think this is correct.

I'm looking at my PT3 stats right now. For example for my past 11,000 hands $1NL my RFI % is 16.15% on the button (55/341), but my PRF is 9.68% (138/1426). PFR counts every time I've had an opportunity to raise, whereas RFI count only the opportunities where I was actually first in.

This is also very confusing to me how my RFI % is higher than my PFR% but for all the other stats I've seen on here it is opposite. I can understand that maybe I am 3-betting less, which could lower my PFR % compared to them. But I highly doubt I raise more than them when its folded around to me.

This is actually driving me a little crazy now!

KRADA a programmer and moderator on the PT3 forums answered this:
http://www.pokertracker.com/forums/v...p?f=15&t=19011

The short answer is: All attempts to steal are raises first in, but not all raises first in are attempts to steal.

RFI is how often you raise when you are entering a pot and the pot has not been raised previously.
ASB is how often you raise to steal the blinds when you are entering a pot and nobody has entered the pot before you.

So here are some examples where the stats differ:

You are on the button. UTG limps, all fold to you, you raise. RFI would be 100% (you could have and did raise first), ASB would be N/A (someone else was in the pot, you couldn't attempt to steal).

You are on the button. UTG limps, all fold to you, you fold. RFI would be 0% (you could have but didn't RFI), ASB would be N/A.

So one thing is for sure 100% of ASB are also RFI. But not all RFI are attempts to steal blinds. Therefore I don't understand how ASB for example on charger07's stats can be overall 30%+, when his RFI% is combined for cut-off, button and SB are not even that high.

EDIT: I have to also add that there is something very wrong with KRADAS explanation since my RFI and ASB stats for cut-off, button, and SB all exactly match. I know for a fact that I often raise in multi-way limped pots so if RFI=1/1 when I raise with a limper but N/A for ASB since limpers are in it is impossible for these two stats to be equal....something is messed up here.

The more I think about this the more I suspect that the stats posted in the beginning of this thread are from a much older version of Poker Tracker. I'm using the latest updated PT3. Possibly then the exact definitions of PFR, RFI, and ASB are different for my tracker program.?

Maybe because Chargers in 07 stats show that his PFR is always higher than RFI. Your stats shows something different, maybe they changed the way they calculate it in recents versions.

I don't see why you put so much effort on those stats though.

Hey guys, can you give me an analysis of my stats?







I'm somewhat bothered by the declining blue line. It seems that my aggression gets me into trouble-- I bet my losing hands way too much and as a result of it bleed money...

This thread has been great. Thanks to everyone who is helping with the analysis. I am through post 700 so far, and have found a couple huge leaks that I had in common with previous posters.

Here is my first stat post. The first quarter of the graph is 2NL, which I did fairly well at over a small sample. The first 8k hands at 5NL went smoothly, but I have been kicked in the nuts by mathematical aberrations for the last 2k hands. On the whole though, I think 10BB/100 is pretty representative of what I can expect going forward if I don't make any changes. I appreciate your inputs on any tweaks (or overhauls!) I can make to my crappy game.

This is my first stat analysis, so take that into acct when considering my recommendations!

I would like to see your PFR be 1-2% closer to your vpip. Look at the hands that you open limped or over limped to see if they have been profitable for you. Open raise with more pocket pairs, and occasionally SCs, even out of position.

Tighten your utg range significantly. Right now it is 13% VPIP and your PFR is 6.4. I would say only play those hands that you are raising now utg, and dump the rest.

Your VPIP stays pretty constant from UTG to MP2. You do a good job of opening up a little in the hijack and do very well from the cutoff and button, but need to be more positionally aware UTG-MP2. There should be a gradient that starts small from 6-8% UTG and goes up with every position.

Steal more! The blinds want to give you their money, and it is rude not to take it. You are at 23% now. Definitely get it up above 30, and if possible 35-40%.

You might be calling too many 3 bets. Filter out hands that you called 3bets preflop and see how that has treated you.

About 1200 posts ago in this thread, mpethybridge gave some great pointers that might improve your blind play:
Hope this helps.

If you can show us your hand value winnings that would be helpful. Definatly go with the things suggested right above me.

I am almost willing to bet my whole roll you already know your problem. You are probably stacking off way way to light. Stop stacking off with TPGK type hands and try to keep the pot under control. This will likley help your SD$.

Looks good so far. Might take a peak at your 3bet range. Appears to be a little high but I may be wrong on this. Nice red line!!! You must teach me the art of a good redline

johnnytothec: Thanks a lot, that was very helpful.


By hand value winnings I'm assuming you mean these:


And my problem seems to be cbetting into calling stations with AK and getting beaten by 83o or something equally stupid... Makes me want to punch kittens.

Definatly use your hud to your advantage and dont get mad when the calling stations draw out on you. You want that!!!! That sounds absurd but if they dont draw out on you then they will stop being calling station idiots and thus costing you tons and tons of money in the long run. Just keep value betting them to death and you will murder them.
Make sure you are not stacking off with to many bottom two pair hands. Not always the best hands but this is dependent on your opponent. Also dont get in love with Top pair. That just my take on your hand strength stats but someone else might be able to give a better analysis.

By the way to anyone who was also confused by the Raise first in and Att. to Stel blinds %'s stats. The programmer for PT3 (KRADA) has looked at it more and found there is a problem with the RFI stats on the current version of PT3.

https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/...p?f=15&t=19011

So no wonder it was confusing the crap out of me. Hopefully it will be fixed soon.

Also the RFI and Att. to Steal stats are definitely defined differently now so anyone trying to compare their stats to Charger07 ect in first post will find major discrepancies if they are using the new PT3.