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06-03-2015 , 01:37 PM
Haha, well my APM is usually around 75 so I'm halfway there! Here's a really broad view of how I currently open in most cases:

TvZ - reaper expand, reactor on Rax, Factory, switch Factory to reactor for ~6 hellions
TvP - reaper expand, get 3 rax before factory
TvT - trying to decide. Most Ts I face do 1-base early-ish agression, so my reaper expand is failing pretty hard. Might try the banshee, rushing for tanks, or 3rax stim (open, NOT cheese)

I don't use reapers very offensively because I either lose it stupidly or my macro falls apart as a result. Usually I scout, maybe kill a worker or two, and get out and scout around and try to spot the 3rd base timing with it. I don't really have the multitasking ability - dropping in the main and attacking at the front is about the pinnacle of my multitasking ability.
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06-03-2015 , 07:22 PM
i figure with 75 apm multitasking is pretty hard, id think hellions are not really worth it. def not 6. a little map control and vision is good but i know i t can be a pain to micro them or make them serve any purpose

i dont play enough to comment on tvp but i hate this matchup and expect to lose if it goes past like 10-12m

if you are losing to early aggression just open quick tanks and be super safe. gasless 1 rax fe into tanks followed by marines, or open banshee and use them to scout what the reaper cannot by then anyway.

im down to play if you ever want practice vT. id play nice =p
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06-03-2015 , 07:32 PM
Well I started going hellions after bobman's post, and it has worked out pretty well against all the dumb ling-bane stuff:

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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Are you going into hellions after the reaper? Hellions wreck any zerg all-in that doesn't involve roaches.
...Maybe I should scale down to 4. Generally I use them to make sure I'm not dying to any dumb ling/bane all-in and then get out and use them to scout around and deny creep and harass as zerg tries to get up their 3rd. I find them pretty useful defensively although they're admittedly useless against roaches.
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06-04-2015 , 04:09 AM
Last night GSL spoiler (final match):

Spoiler:
Jesus, Byul is COLD BLOODED. I didn't think I could ever feel sorry for a Protoss, but right now I do.
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06-05-2015 , 12:34 AM
what korean sc2 do i remember as having the team colors be yellow vs. purple or yellow vs. blue??

All I'm seeing now is the typical blue-vs-red but i remember seeing yellow a lot a couple years ago
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06-05-2015 , 11:19 PM
lol


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06-05-2015 , 11:56 PM
Time to start practicing your micro for sieged-up tank drops!
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06-05-2015 , 11:59 PM
aaaaaaaaand their login client is broken apparently for most people that got the newest round of beta. nice ****ing job. yet another sick joke on your boy schu by the fine folks at blizzard

tomorrow I'll find that the legacy beta just leads me to the Heroes main menu where I pay $9.99 once a week for the rest of my life on worthless horse ****. you know what, I'm good.
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06-06-2015 , 12:07 AM
Article on Life's injury: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32996009
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06-06-2015 , 12:08 AM
I got in the beta too, will have to try it out soon
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06-06-2015 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Needle77
Haha you noob, that's Flash. That's crazy though, I had no idea he had a huge scar on his arm.
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06-06-2015 , 12:54 AM
Yikes. Lol. I looked at the picture and didnt recognize who it was so I went to their roster saw Lee and assumed it must be Life(because i know what Flash looks like).

Oh what I thought was a picture was a video. I am dumb.
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06-06-2015 , 12:57 AM
I didn't realize it was a video either. That video is incredibly cringe-worthy
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06-06-2015 , 10:30 AM
Somehow I just got promoted into diamond playing random even though I've played like 30 games in the last year. Protoss is easy lol
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06-06-2015 , 06:22 PM
still unable to play beta. lol blizzard
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06-08-2015 , 12:53 AM
Now that swarm hosts are gone, what's my ideal composition against a Terran who goes mass thor with hellbat support? I'm pretty sure roaches aren't involved, because they are terrible.
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06-08-2015 , 02:11 AM
do brood lords outrange thors?
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06-08-2015 , 02:21 AM
Barely, I think? Not enough that you can kite very effectively (like, 11.5 to 11 or something like that). If they add vikings you won't be able to sustain an air army.
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06-08-2015 , 02:31 AM
I went into a unit tester to try a few things and 15 thors (90 supply) on full upgrades killed 90 supply of any Zerg units I could put together. I honestly thought lings might be able to do it, because the high damage of thors wouldn't matter as much and they'd get a ton of surface area, but still 5 thors survived.

I wasn't able to test brood lords because the unit tester didn't have the "thors auto-shoot air" patch, so they'd derp out and shoot at broodlings and die. You don't really want to be trapped into going brood lords against a mech Terran, though.
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06-08-2015 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Now that swarm hosts are gone, what's my ideal composition against a Terran who goes mass thor with hellbat support? I'm pretty sure roaches aren't involved, because they are terrible.
I would go mass roach + Neural Parasite infestors

Good people would probably just make ultralisks + queens.
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06-08-2015 , 03:12 AM
Really? Like, in my test, I think 90 supply of roaches killed maybe a few thors. I'm not exaggerating when I say they're terrible.
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06-08-2015 , 10:15 PM
4 days later, still unable to play the beta. just a spectacular lol blizzard
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06-08-2015 , 11:33 PM
Some random research after messing around with a library that parses SC2 replays:



This is based on 270 replays from GSL Season 3 last year, the WCS Finals, and GSL/SSL Season 1 of this year; each bar is a set of 30 games.

I'm mostly interested in comparing this against the replays that come out for season 2, following the swarm host nerf, both to see:
a.) how general game length changes in ZvT/ZvP
b.) if Zerg's lategame winrate drops even farther, and is perhaps made up for with an increase in early/midgame wins
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06-09-2015 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Really? Like, in my test, I think 90 supply of roaches killed maybe a few thors. I'm not exaggerating when I say they're terrible.
Ya man you NP a couple of the thors while target firing the enemy thors. If you have enough to where you can 1 or 2 shot them you can trade pretty efficiently.

But yeah I think ultras with transfuse are the best counter to ground things that aren't immortals/siege tanks/marauders.


I also got into Beta but can't figure out how to install it from the Battle.net application
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06-09-2015 , 09:21 PM
not sure how to deal with storm other than attack before a toss gets storm. do they really expect me to cloak ghosts and emp those ****ers while the toss just gets to hit a button and kill my entire army?
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