This is the one I got

If you only need to use it for yourself, I may go with a smaller one. It's literally so big that it drags down my shorts if I'm not wearing a belt. weighs .75lbs and is 6.64" long.

Haha yep, that's the one I got too. A belt is a must. But it is nice not having to charge the brick itself that often.

"You don't invent Marco Polo, get 80M players to join, then remove the Polo part and expect people to keep playing." -Pokevision founder

Again, why do you assume it is removed forever? Yeah, they suck at communicating, but that doesn't mean they scrapped it.

Right now it's just players ramping each other into a fervor with baseless speculation.

I'm reading Niantic also nerfed catchrates after the patch, which seems to be in line with what I was/am experiencing. Seems like a pretty ****ty way to get a few more bucks out of me.

This is why all these microtransaction phone games get 0 bucks out of me. When/If the fun is gone due to money being needed to progress, I'm gone too.

I don't really have a particularly big sample of playing @ lvl 21 before the patch (perhaps 1 evening of light play), but after the patch it definitely feels stuff is more difficult to catch. Especially weak/common pokemon in the 100-180 CP range, who used to be a 1-2 baller are now a serious issue at times, breaking out constantly. Also getting some bugged encounters where the pokemon is just uncatchable for an undetermined reason.

I mean, why should we treat "a month after tons of people got bored with an inability to find pokemon and quit" as different from "forever?"

Because they're two different things. Especially when a significant portion of that drop off was going to happen anyway as the buzz wore off.

Enough with the Chicken Little act. The people complaining on reddit are a very small slice of people playing.

great post

Has it been confirmed what the XS/XL sizes do yet? FWIW I tag teamed a gym take down, I used an XS Pokémon and my partner had regular sized, I was able to dodge every earthquake that came at me but my partner got hit every time. We swapped phones and it was still my account doing all the dodging. Not sure if the type of Pokémon had anything to with it.

I used 3rd party trackers in the past (well, tracker) and then stopped bc idgaf anymore. think it's totally fine for others to use it, and it prob helps 1 or 2%

I've had the same experience lately. It might not be a nerf it might be game design. I know I would do that. Make it easier to catch stuff level 1-8 and then slowly decrease the chance of catching something when you get to higher levels. Give you a little taste then hope you are committed and keep playing and spending.

I'm noticing that pokeman will run away much more often now. I'm 18 and on my run this morning I had 5 pokeman levels 100-220 break out of the first ball and then run away immediately. I *might* get one run away before but they they are happening about 1 out of 4 catch attempts now.

Six months from now I think many people will have quit. There really isn't that much to do once you hit 20. Gyms?? Ok but that got old pretty quick. People might stick it out to "catch'em all" but even that I think will wane.

Using trackers or any other tool to "cheat" is as pathetic as they come. The novelty already wears off as you get deeper into the game, makes no sense to accelerate the process.

Same, I don't use deck trackers anymore in HS but I don't see it as cheating since Blizzard has come out and said they aren't cheating.

Niantic doesn't want PokeVision in their game so it's cheating.

I personally don't feel strongly either way about PokeVision but if Niantic doesn't want it in their game, then so be it.

you're cheating by being from San Fran

It was never "in" their game to begin with. It's not much different than me calling my friend down the street and saying "Hey, a rare pokemon just popped up in front of my house."

I guess talking to friends is cheating.

It takes money, time and, in most cases, talent to make a game that gets this popular. I don't mind paying some amount of money for the enjoyment I get out of it, but some people do lose complete control and spend hundreds or thousands a month on games like this. It's nuts.

What Pokeman Go looks like for the people that were "cheating"



What Pokeman Go look likes to the people complaining about the "cheaters."

Right, but when this 3rd party stuff starts popping up, it's up to the company to decide if it's cheating or not. Blizzard allows deck trackers in HS and from what I understand, add ons in WoW. If I'm playing league, Riot says I can look up all the stats from the other team via a 3rd party website even though it could affect who I target with ganks if I'm jungling. There is 3rd party stuff for every game now.

lol, I know exactly where that is. the gym on the left is radio city hall.

Lol @ thinking deck trackers are cheating. You could do the same thing with a pen and pencil and a piece of notebook paper, that's why they allow it

Same as poker HUDS which arguably do a **** load more what you could feasibly do with just a notebook and a calculator

As far as pokevision goes, yea wookies post nails it. Luckily I don't get enjoyment out of this game from roaming around hunting but I know a lot of people were so it's a huge bummer they have completely removed that. This company seems woefully unprepared for a release of a game like this, which is funny because it's basically just a clone of ingress anyway, How could they **** up this badly?

crowdsourced sites that don't break into the games api still exist and are perfectly fine, so something that is not much different than you calling your friend down the street is in fact not cheating.

have you ever tried to argue using what people actually say instead of making up their argument for them?

not sure your example is valid given that poker tracking software is illegal on a lot of sites and yet the calculations can theoretically be done w/ a pen or pencil and a piece of notebook paper.

I feel like after the update, I am losing the GPS signal a ton more.

On the flipside, the app crashes a lot less.

Why are we even having this argument. If people want to call people who use pokevision cheaters, that's fine and dandy. you're entitled to your own opinion and your ****ty ass pokedex. The point is to go out and explore, see things and enjoy yourself. I'm doing that, with pokevision or without. Guess that means I'm winning