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11-22-2017 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Loki
I dunno. 4th gen i5 may be long in the tooth these days. Makes me think the other specs ain’t great, like RAM speed for instance. Plus the chipset is quite dated.

Edit

Googled it, guess h97 was 2014, so somewhat old.
Meh, I'm still running an overclocked 2500K and have no problems whatsoever on 1080p. *shrug*
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11-22-2017 , 03:14 PM
Yeah I play 1080p on most games, PUBG is kinda ****ty but that's probably more them. CSGO is fine normally getting around 125-300fps depending on what map it is, It does struggle here and there I guess if your being picky with it.

The other problem I guess is that if I'm playing PUBG and have Chrome open then my computer ****s the bed having it open while CSGO is running then it fine saying this though playing a song on spotify whilst DM'ing I will notice a drop in FPS.
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11-22-2017 , 03:18 PM
I’m just basing my opinion on pubg and fortnite being newer games. Not entirely sure if they’re particularly graphically demanding or heavily taxing on other resources.
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11-22-2017 , 05:35 PM
Assuming it's correct, the thread I poached that link to bargain HP system + HP WinVR headset said it now has full SteamVR support (and Oculus too via ReVive).
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11-22-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
Assuming it's correct, the thread I poached that link to bargain HP system + HP WinVR headset said it now has full SteamVR support (and Oculus too via ReVive).
The steal of the year would have been the Samsung Odyssey VR system for $500-$400 or $100 with the selected pc or laptops.

However, a million other people thought the same thing and it sold out in a few hours.
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11-24-2017 , 02:49 PM
Been thinking about a gaming laptop for couch sessions w/ the misses, and i saw PC Mag review this Dell Inspiron one ($700) quite highly:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...?skuId=5872507

Specs:
  • Hard Drive Capacity 256 gigabytes
  • Hard Drive Type Solid State Drive
  • Processor Speed (Base) 2.5 gigahertz
  • Processor Model Intel 7th Generation Core i5
  • System Memory (RAM) 8 gigabytes
  • Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
  • Screen Size 15.6 inches

Bonus that you can buy a $450 Dell VR/MR headset for $50 if you buy it as a combo (even though the guy in the store said the deal was already over - it's still active on your site, *******!)

Went in and checked it out. They've upgraded to an IPS screen, which was a complaint a few months back when the PC Mag article came out.

Not sure if I want to pull the trigger, as it's $100 cheaper than through Dell, and $250 cheaper than the lowest GTX1060 I've seen.

The screen looks pretty decent, but it has a center hinge so it does get a little wobbly. The keys are super shallow and a little awkwardly laid out in combo w/ the touchpad. Standard WASD placement would basically put your thumb over the touchpad. Touchpad itself is textured, but only slightly so. I could only tell because the article complained about the texture and I was looking for it specifically.

It definitely feels a little on the cheap side, but for $700 what can you expect?

They had 3DMark installed so I ran a test. I noticed a fair amount of screen tearing on the device. A nearby i7/GTX1060 also had some screen tear, but noticeably less. Maybe it's just the program itself, I dunno. I did research the various cards used in laptops. The MAXQ 1060 that laptops tend to get is only about 5-8% slower than a desktop 1060, which is pretty awesome. The 1050ti is definitely slower. Probably can do most of the games I play at 1080 (max for the screen) on decent settings, but I would worry a bit about future proofing.

Dunno what to do.
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11-24-2017 , 03:43 PM
Get a steam link for $5 in the sale instead?
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11-24-2017 , 03:46 PM
already have one
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11-24-2017 , 04:13 PM
Just picked up a Dell 7577 with 1060 Max-q (i5-7300q, 8gb RAM, 256gb SSD) the other day for $750 through Dell's site, keep an eye on SlickDeals. Haven't had a chance to test it out too heavily yet, but seems solid so far.

Also, speaking of SlickDeals, got a Logitech G610 for $50 today, seems like a good one if anyone is looking for a keyboard.

Last edited by Wheatsauce; 11-24-2017 at 04:19 PM. Reason: bonus deal
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11-25-2017 , 11:38 PM
Thinking about picking up a few parts and doing a new build but prolly the budget variety this time. Any advice from previous experiences would be appreciated
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11-26-2017 , 12:33 PM
Well the time to buy is tomorrow, but you prolly already knew that.
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11-26-2017 , 07:06 PM
do you guys do build reviews in here? looking to build a new rig, budget is 2k. this is what i've thrown together so far:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jf7Cjc

mostly gaming: pubg, dota2, overwatch, sc2, maybe some VR at somet point

this is my monitor: DELL S2716DG 27" Gaming Monitor with WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution 144 Hz Refresh Rate and NVIDIA G-Sync 16:9 TN Panel
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11-26-2017 , 07:39 PM
Looks pretty solid. Any particular questions you have?
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11-26-2017 , 07:42 PM
Can you run a WQHD 2560 x 1440 screen at 1080 when you desire improved performance? Or is the aliasing too bad?
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11-26-2017 , 07:53 PM
Cakewalk,

I prefer large towers. They don't cost that much more and are much more convenient when it comes to cabling and adding or replacing components.
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11-26-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Loki
Been thinking about a gaming laptop for couch sessions w/ the misses, and i saw PC Mag review this Dell Inspiron one ($700) quite highly:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...?skuId=5872507

Specs:
  • Hard Drive Capacity 256 gigabytes
  • Hard Drive Type Solid State Drive
  • Processor Speed (Base) 2.5 gigahertz
  • Processor Model Intel 7th Generation Core i5
  • System Memory (RAM) 8 gigabytes
  • Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
  • Screen Size 15.6 inches

Bonus that you can buy a $450 Dell VR/MR headset for $50 if you buy it as a combo (even though the guy in the store said the deal was already over - it's still active on your site, *******!)

Went in and checked it out. They've upgraded to an IPS screen, which was a complaint a few months back when the PC Mag article came out.

Not sure if I want to pull the trigger, as it's $100 cheaper than through Dell, and $250 cheaper than the lowest GTX1060 I've seen.

The screen looks pretty decent, but it has a center hinge so it does get a little wobbly. The keys are super shallow and a little awkwardly laid out in combo w/ the touchpad. Standard WASD placement would basically put your thumb over the touchpad. Touchpad itself is textured, but only slightly so. I could only tell because the article complained about the texture and I was looking for it specifically.

It definitely feels a little on the cheap side, but for $700 what can you expect?

They had 3DMark installed so I ran a test. I noticed a fair amount of screen tearing on the device. A nearby i7/GTX1060 also had some screen tear, but noticeably less. Maybe it's just the program itself, I dunno. I did research the various cards used in laptops. The MAXQ 1060 that laptops tend to get is only about 5-8% slower than a desktop 1060, which is pretty awesome. The 1050ti is definitely slower. Probably can do most of the games I play at 1080 (max for the screen) on decent settings, but I would worry a bit about future proofing.

Dunno what to do.
I ordered virtually the same laptop a couple months ago from Dell, but with the i7 processor. If you use Ebates its usually around 10% back from Dell, which is nice.

After seeing some of the deals this week I probably should have waited and got something with a 1060, but if a game requires a little more power I'll play it on my PC. I like the laptop itself, only one screw to get into the back of it for upgrades, and everything functions well and feels nice. As far as gaming, I'm really just running WoW and some older stuff, and it handles all that stuff well.

I think if you have reservations about future proofing then wait for a deal with a 1060 or better.
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11-26-2017 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cakewalk
do you guys do build reviews in here? looking to build a new rig, budget is 2k. this is what i've thrown together so far:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jf7Cjc

mostly gaming: pubg, dota2, overwatch, sc2, maybe some VR at somet point

this is my monitor: DELL S2716DG 27" Gaming Monitor with WQHD 2560 x 1440 Resolution 144 Hz Refresh Rate and NVIDIA G-Sync 16:9 TN Panel
Are you going to stream or no?

Could save some money and get the i5-8600k if youre not going to stream/do youtube stuff.
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11-27-2017 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Loki
Been thinking about a gaming laptop for couch sessions w/ the misses, and i saw PC Mag review this Dell Inspiron one ($700) quite highly:

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/dell-in...?skuId=5872507

Specs:
  • Hard Drive Capacity 256 gigabytes
  • Hard Drive Type Solid State Drive
  • Processor Speed (Base) 2.5 gigahertz
  • Processor Model Intel 7th Generation Core i5
  • System Memory (RAM) 8 gigabytes
  • Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
  • Screen Size 15.6 inches

Bonus that you can buy a $450 Dell VR/MR headset for $50 if you buy it as a combo (even though the guy in the store said the deal was already over - it's still active on your site, *******!)

Went in and checked it out. They've upgraded to an IPS screen, which was a complaint a few months back when the PC Mag article came out.

Not sure if I want to pull the trigger, as it's $100 cheaper than through Dell, and $250 cheaper than the lowest GTX1060 I've seen.

The screen looks pretty decent, but it has a center hinge so it does get a little wobbly. The keys are super shallow and a little awkwardly laid out in combo w/ the touchpad. Standard WASD placement would basically put your thumb over the touchpad. Touchpad itself is textured, but only slightly so. I could only tell because the article complained about the texture and I was looking for it specifically.

It definitely feels a little on the cheap side, but for $700 what can you expect?

They had 3DMark installed so I ran a test. I noticed a fair amount of screen tearing on the device. A nearby i7/GTX1060 also had some screen tear, but noticeably less. Maybe it's just the program itself, I dunno. I did research the various cards used in laptops. The MAXQ 1060 that laptops tend to get is only about 5-8% slower than a desktop 1060, which is pretty awesome. The 1050ti is definitely slower. Probably can do most of the games I play at 1080 (max for the screen) on decent settings, but I would worry a bit about future proofing.

Dunno what to do.
I believe this is the one I bought a couple days before Thanksgiving and am using right now.

I am not going to use it for my primary gaming (it's really for my every day work and what-not), so I didn't care about it not being incredible. Just seemed like a good bang for the buck, something I can play games on if my kids are occupying the desktop PC's while at the same time having longevity for my day-to-day tasks. So far, I like it.

I installed Civ VI and it seems to run very nicely. I quickly tried the training range on Overwatch and it looked and felt great on high detail. Didn't try a real game yet.

Keyboard feels good to me. Yeah, some slight differences in key placement and size from my other laptop will take getting used to, but I think it will be good.

My main problem right now is the touchpad. I'm used to having the two physical mouse buttons below the touchpad, but this one doesn't have them (and I would suspect most today don't). The pad can be clicked like a mouse, so that's fine, but the problem is that I am used to resting my thumb on the physical buttons while I use a finger to move on the touchpad. Doing that here doesn't work well, as it gets confused when I have two fingers on the pad.

I'll have to either get used to resting my thumb below the touchpad or hover it over it. I'm hoping it's just a new habit I have become accustomed to rather than a long-term issue.

Overall, though, my first impression is positive, but then again, I'm not a power user.
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11-27-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
My main problem right now is the touchpad. I'm used to having the two physical mouse buttons below the touchpad, but this one doesn't have them (and I would suspect most today don't). The pad can be clicked like a mouse, so that's fine, but the problem is that I am used to resting my thumb on the physical buttons while I use a finger to move on the touchpad. Doing that here doesn't work well, as it gets confused when I have two fingers on the pad.
There should be some sort of setting for your touchpad called like palm guard, or palm check, or something along those lines. It's a setting intended to stop your palm from clicking while you type but it messes up gaming. You can't always turn it off, sometimes there's just a scale from max to min. But I'd turn it down all the way and see if it helps.

It also might be possible to edit the settings so the bottom part of the touchpad doesn't register. Like you can choose an area of the touchpad that won't respond.
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11-28-2017 , 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Go Get It
Are you going to stream or no?

Could save some money and get the i5-8600k if youre not going to stream/do youtube stuff.
doubtful wrt streaming. what's the big difference between the i5 and i7?

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Cakewalk,

I prefer large towers. They don't cost that much more and are much more convenient when it comes to cabling and adding or replacing components.
i really like the smaller form factor. i have a very large case now that's not particularly easy wrt cabling, replacing components, and especially cleaning. how much harder can it get?!

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Originally Posted by Loki
Looks pretty solid. Any particular questions you have?
if there's anything that stands out as whack. pcpartpicker didn't find any errors
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11-28-2017 , 01:14 AM
If all you're doing is gaming an i5 is all you need, i7 is overkill and unnecessary.
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11-28-2017 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by wahoo3
There should be some sort of setting for your touchpad called like palm guard, or palm check, or something along those lines. It's a setting intended to stop your palm from clicking while you type but it messes up gaming. You can't always turn it off, sometimes there's just a scale from max to min. But I'd turn it down all the way and see if it helps.

It also might be possible to edit the settings so the bottom part of the touchpad doesn't register. Like you can choose an area of the touchpad that won't respond.
I have that palm guard thing on my old laptop, but it's not on this new Dell. I have turned the sensitivity all the way to low and turned off all tap/gesture controls. As far as I can tell, there is no separate software on this laptop for the touchpad - all settings are in Windows.

I wonder if I can download Synaptics software or something like that to take control of the touchpad.

The interesting thing is, it SEEMS like there was some zone control intended, as there is a red vertical line at the bottom of the touchpad, presumably separating what would be the left and right mouse buttons. You would think that if it was never intended to fine tune certain areas that the line wouldn't be there.

I have a feeling I'll be able to get used to it over time, but it would be awesome if I could just disable the bottom portion of the touchpad.

My style of resting my thumb on the "button" tends to work if I put my thumb down first and keep it in place while I scroll with another finger. It's when I move my thumb that things mess up.
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11-28-2017 , 10:01 PM
Only missing the CPU, i5-8600k, which is out of stock everywhere.



Soon.
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11-28-2017 , 11:00 PM
I don't know how you are going to play any games without a monitor.
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11-28-2017 , 11:46 PM
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