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12-13-2016 , 01:45 PM
If you are going to buy a dGPU today, 1060 is probably the bare minimum. If you need less than that, chances are the iGPU will do for you.
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12-13-2016 , 05:00 PM
Free windows upgrade is dead, u less you tell them you use assistive technology. They do not verify.
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12-13-2016 , 07:01 PM
AMD is back!

Last edited by _dave_; 12-13-2016 at 07:01 PM. Reason: maybe
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12-13-2016 , 07:18 PM
Update is fine, upgrade of an old compu is cpu sepuku. Ya AMD got me hard when I disabled my Catalyst Control Center. Took me a couple hours googling event viewer errors and reinstalling drivers to get the application crashing to stop.
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01-03-2017 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by _dave_
AMD is back!
The benchmarks do look really nice. But the performance lead (if it exists) isn't big enough for AMD to regain market share, especially given AMD's tendencies to fail at production scaling.

Still, these are exciting times. AMD upping the core count and performance to "competitive" levels will force Intel to respond with lower prices and higher core counts, eventually leading to much larger user base of quad-core CPUs to tempt developers into properly multi-threading.

Meanwhile, 6700HQ laptops with GTX 1060/1070 laptops are already getting discounted by 100 to 200 due to the imminent release of 7700HQ versions.
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01-04-2017 , 01:11 AM
What's the average cost for a decent <1000 setup these days? I'm looking to get into PC gaming again.
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01-04-2017 , 01:24 AM
Pretty much exactly 1000. You can go down to ~800 by opting for AMD CPU and GPU but you'll lose 10~20% performance overall. At this point in time Intel+nVidia is king.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/V..._Radeon_RX_480 <$1000 with RX 480 (1006 with GTX 1060)

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Dragon <$765 but significantly weaker but will play eSports titles perfectly fine. AAA titles will force you to scale down graphics.
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01-04-2017 , 11:37 AM
Agreed for the most part. Ars' yearly system guide is always a good resource:

https://techreport.com/review/30291/...e-2016-edition

Just insert the Radeon 480 or Geforce 1060 as the graphics card and you're set. This guy is actually a great deal. I'd sell one card and pocket the cash, or sell both and buy a Geforce 1070.

reddit.com/r/hardwareswap is a good place to sell/buy used parts, and r/buildapcsales is a great page to passively follow for good deals.
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01-04-2017 , 02:09 PM
Build pc sales on reddit was a godsend building my sons rig recently. I've however had to stop following the sub because I can't stop buying **** lol
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01-04-2017 , 04:36 PM
It's probably worth noting that gaming laptops aren't much more expensive than desktops now.
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01-04-2017 , 04:39 PM
Way more likely to melt the graphics card and be an expensive paperweight tho
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01-04-2017 , 04:53 PM
I don't know if that's true with current gen Pascal chips running at ~70c under load. My own experience with an Asus GL502VS is it doesn't get THAT hot either.
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01-04-2017 , 05:18 PM
Pet hair and dust don't care about avg running temperatures ime
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01-04-2017 , 06:54 PM
i game on an alienware laptop. its not hard to monitor system temps and control the fans. its also not hard to keep them clean if you aren't lazy.

taking a few extra minutes every so often to make sure its clear of dust is worth being able to game wherever I want to.
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01-04-2017 , 08:30 PM
IMO buy like the best processor in the biggest tower from new egg you can get for $400-600ish, then immediately upgrade the ram and video card. This will cost you $600 and will last a year less time than the $1k rig. My current computer was $500ish bought in 2012 and runs most things ok, but is just getting due for an upgrade. YMMV
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01-04-2017 , 08:46 PM
That could work.

1060 and 1070 are at such a good performance/price point now. It's silly to not shell out another 200 to grab the RX480 or GTX1060 (next step down is pretty big). It's kind of a shame to not get 1070 too for another 200 more. These cards will last 3-5 years.

You're paying extra for a year (1060?) or two (1070) of useful life and extra FPS for the duration of the useful life.

I think it's worth it.
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01-04-2017 , 11:03 PM
I don't normally recommend prebuilts, but Newegg has what appears to be a really good deal right now. If you want to go with a prebuilt, it seems like a good candidate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883102252

16 GB DDR4
i5-6600k
Two RX480s (4GB version)
120 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
Windows 10
etc

$900, which is less than what it would cost you to build it yourself.

I can't find the Reddit thread about this deal any more, but the motherboard was a name brand one.
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01-04-2017 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
I can't find the Reddit thread about this deal any more, but the motherboard was a name brand one.
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsal...b_ram_1tb_hdd/
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01-05-2017 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy517
I don't normally recommend prebuilts, but Newegg has what appears to be a really good deal right now. If you want to go with a prebuilt, it seems like a good candidate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16883102252

16 GB DDR4
i5-6600k
Two RX480s (4GB version)
120 GB SSD
1 TB HDD
Windows 10
etc

$900, which is less than what it would cost you to build it yourself.

I can't find the Reddit thread about this deal any more, but the motherboard was a name brand one.
This is a SICK deal.

The cards, case, and PSU alone would cost about as much.

EDIT: Fook it. Bought it. No idea what to do with it but bought it.
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01-06-2017 , 03:24 AM
Yeah that's unreal good value.
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01-08-2017 , 03:21 AM
Wow, what AMD showed at CES is amazing. The 8 core Ryzen is only a little slower, if at all, than i7-6900k and Ryzen, supposedly, wasn't demoed with boost yet.

10% cheaper on the CPU (my guess)... and the MB will be much cheaper anyway. If AMD doesn't blow it with supply issues they are going to give Intel some pretty massive headaches, especially with Cannonlake delayed to second half of 2017.
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02-20-2017 , 08:33 PM
finally ready to build my dream pc and fully convert to the master race but I don't want to start buying until ryzen is accounced/benchmarked. anyone heard a solid date?

going with a gtx 1080 and a 1440p 144hz monitor. pretty excite to move up from 1080p gaming.
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02-20-2017 , 09:20 PM
Good luck. I have a GTX 1070 and 1440p 144 Hz monitor. I can get 144 in Overwatch (and less demanding games), but not Doom, where I get 115 ish if I max everything out..
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02-20-2017 , 10:03 PM
Expecting Ryzen on Feb 28th
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02-20-2017 , 10:25 PM
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Good luck. I have a GTX 1070 and 1440p 144 Hz monitor. I can get 144 in Overwatch (and less demanding games), but not Doom, where I get 115 ish if I max everything out..
Maybe I should wait to jump to 1440p?

I've also tossed around the idea of adding two more 27 in 1080p monitors and rocking a triple 27 in setup.

Curious question. If I went with 3 1080p and got a 144hz for the center monitor for games I'll play on one panel, would that panel just run at 60hz with the other two when I ran a game that supports 3 screens? Or would different refresh rates cause it to look weird side by side?

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