This poll is dealing with a fairly specific type of class imo, and obviously doesn't apply for run-n-gun classes or sniping or anything. I have included Scavenger and OMA in the same 'category' because they both 'regenerate' ammo and have their own advantages and disadvantages to doing so. I personally prefer scavenger 90% of the time.

The class in question is basically your standard AR class with other perks being SPP and NP. You have killstreaks set to 5-7-11 but don't really go for killstreaks much, if you get them you get them. So essentially the decision is between increasing your killing time/frequency or increasing the number of people you can kill.

Once you've got OMA pro, its OMA and i dont think its relatively close.

soh makes it easier to win 1 v 1 gun battles, which enables me to be more aggressive, which makes the game more fun. It saves a TON of time reloading as well. If you're really good at winning 1 vs 1 w/out soh then Scavenger/OMA is probably better.

I rarely use Scavenger, but I have been on this prestige because I'm working towards getting the emblem. I usually don't stay alive long enough to really need it, but sometimes I do.

I only use OMA when I'm tubing. I feel like OMA is a wasted perk if I'm using anything else, although I understand its uses. You also have to look at how often you switch to your secondary also.

With that said I'd rather use Sleight of Hand if I'm not too worried about killstreaks. I think anyone with a tendency to "want kills" is going to be doing some form of a run-and-gun so you want that quick ADS time to put the initial encounter in your favor. Most of the time, though, I'm running Marathon.

For run and gunners with no patience like me, SOH all day, every day.

if you have no patience, how do you run and gun w/ SoH?

SoH for me. The only time I use scavenger is if I am trying to go for a nuke and want to use the ACR or SCAR. If you were to set up a few OMA classes w/ Hardline and Danger Close, I can see the advantage to using it that way though. Running 5/7/11 you pretty much only need 5-6 gun kills and I would rather make sure I have SoH Pro so I can win those easier.

Does SoH actually help much on non sniper classes, in 1v1 battles?

SoH Pro helps you aim faster and if you land the first shot, you should win the fight. I'm a big fan of reloading fast too because you usually don't just run into guys 1 at a time.

I use both frequently. I love SOH with the fam16 cuz that gun doesnt eat up ammo a ton. It usually comes down to how I am playing the map. If I am setting up shop and locking a corner of the map down then scavenger so I dont run out of ammo and I can lay lots of claymores down. If its a map where Im gonna be on the move then soh.


If I had to stick with 1 then soh cuz its easy to pick up weapons and there's always ur 2ndary and camping is lame.

When I watch kill-cams of the truly amazing players they often will have a class that's like m16+holo, soh, sp, np and they just own. they don't need scav because they hit in a few shots anyway. I kind of thought of that in making this thread. Obv you are one of the 'truly amazing players'.

i always use SoH with an AR, i feel really weird when i don't have it equipped...if i'm using a gun where i burn through ammo (SCAR, ACR probably some others) i select the Raffica and use that as a primary when i run out of ammo with the AR

even having said this, i only have a OMA class for tubing, i use SoH otherwise. And like davey said, scavenger when i go for nukes.

I love SOH, but am generally addicted to Scav. This is mainly because I use grenades so much defending flags, and it's a big advantage having more than one.

Also, imo, the Scar and AA-12 sans extended mags are significantly less effective without Scav. AA-12 is still my go-to secondary.

With that said, I can't argue with a SOH/Spas setup. I'm just not as comfortable with it.

After reading this thread I ran around with the Tar with FMJ and it was super easy dropping people. Love this gun. I was only running 3/4/5 at the time but it was super easy getting to 5.

Running higher killstreaks tilt me to no end these days.

I mean just in general moving around a ton... I don't necessarily need the marathon, but I don't have the patience to camp or stay in one general area.

I find myself in a lot of situations where I'm reloading while kind of out in the open, so that's why I love the quick reload so much.

Also, as Davey pointed out, the quick ADS is so key in getting the first shot which usually leads to winning the battle.

My thought: fast ADS can sometimes even the playing field for someone w/ a bad connection, aka anyone who isn't the host

with the conditions of the OP, I take SoH every time unless I'm using the scar

i use SoH sometimes, but my primary weapon combo on a lot of maps is the scar and aa-12 and scavenger is important so i use that more.

i also never use OMA.

i disagree. since i play on a mobile broadband card i usually play pretty defensively. so i find scavenger very important for claymores to keep my flanks defended and for using the aa-12 so i can own all you 4 bar ****ers in cqc.

basically imo claymores and aa12s even the playing field for someone w/ a bad connection and scavenger makes them useful (well ok noob tubes even the playing field as well but i'm not a little bitch).

i use soh occasionally but i think i would use it a lot more if i had a decent internet connection.
nah oma is only better than scav for pure tubing. secondaries are way too powerful in this game.

I agree, I hate giving up my 2ndaries.

i should have said "oma is only clearly superior to scav for pure tubing" because there are other good reasons to use oma like the killstreak whoring with sp/cb/hl/dc stuff.

If you use claymores then scavenger is way better. I actually don't have them on any class right now but whenever I equip them for a game it just feels like free kills. Then you put them right back down and laugh when the guy runs into it again.

Mostly agree with Davey above. If running claymores, then scavenger. If not running claymores, then you are probably moving around enough to not have to worry too much about running out of ammo. The one exception would be the m16 where bling is imperative imo. FMJ and red dot are both extremely important with that gun, if for no other reason than to improve the probablility of killing in one burst. The single burst kill is what makes that gun so good.

I think if you are going to use bling on the M16 its Holo and Silencer.