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11-04-2009 , 08:30 PM
http://kotaku.com/5397149/modern-war...-capped-at-9v9

BUT GAIZ, I WASN'T BEING TRUTHFUL WHEN I SAID: "You won't be able to play with as many players"

morans.
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11-04-2009 , 08:36 PM
Is 16v16 even fun though? There might be like 2 maps that could even work on.
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11-04-2009 , 08:41 PM
It was definitely fun for a lot of people, as there are plenty of 32 man servers that are constantly full.

Perhaps everyone should just play what you find fun.
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11-04-2009 , 08:44 PM
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Perhaps everyone should just play what you find fun.
what does this even mean?
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11-04-2009 , 08:46 PM
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Is 16v16 even fun though? There might be like 2 maps that could even work on.
do all these ppl have a non virtual gun to their heads?

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11-04-2009 , 08:48 PM
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/...-wait-and-see/

lol, what a moron. everything he says is completely wrong. lol @ "the criticisms don't apply to IWNET!!!!"
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11-04-2009 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LetMeLive
what does this even mean?
khaos asked if it is even fun... as if it's not fun for him then it shouldn't be included int he game.

obviously plenty of people find playing that mode fun. just look at leapfrog's picture.
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11-04-2009 , 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LetMeLive
what does this even mean?
are you really having trouble figuring it out?
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11-04-2009 , 09:25 PM
dont do drugs kids
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11-04-2009 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LetMeLive
dont do drugs kids
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11-04-2009 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bluef0x
http://kotaku.com/5397149/modern-war...-capped-at-9v9

BUT GAIZ, I WASN'T BEING TRUTHFUL WHEN I SAID: "You won't be able to play with as many players"

morans.
Wtf is wrong with you? Everyone knows about the servers. Why do u constantly bring this **** up?
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11-04-2009 , 10:22 PM
Do you know what "everyone" means? Take a look back and you'll see someone saying that "You won't be able to play with as many players" wasn't truthful.

If you don't know what "everyone" means, then wtf is wrong with you?
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11-04-2009 , 10:55 PM
Its been discussed to death why they removed dedicated servers. Please stop ruining this thread.

IW's goal was to make a balanced game. Every interview emphasizes this. I imagine it was really difficult with all the added perks and killstreaks. Two of the killstreaks have to do with Air Drops. You have to find a secluded space with open sky, wait for and then activate the drop. Takes about 15-20 seconds total. If there are 16 men per team this would be very very hard. It would take great communication and teamwork. Most casual gamers (license holders) will be frustrated by this.

They know how many PC games they sold compared to how many are online. Combine that with the comparatively low retail price, and its a super easy decision.
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11-04-2009 , 10:58 PM
none of what you are talking about has a ****ing thing to do with dedicated servers. please, just stop posting if you don't know what you are talking about.

IW spent more money making IWNET than just leaving dedicated servers in... a super easy decision would have been to spend less money on the PC development and securing the most purchases. Instead, they decided to spend money to build a system no one wants while pissing off the entire PC community.

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11-04-2009 , 11:03 PM
If you would have taken the time to actually read what I wrote, you would see that I was talking about their decision to limit games to 18, not about dedicated servers.

The dedicated servers, like I said, have been discussed to death. The reason is pretty simple, they are in the money business.
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11-04-2009 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Dak9885
IW's goal was to make a balanced game. Every interview emphasizes this. I imagine it was really difficult with all the added perks and killstreaks. Two of the killstreaks have to do with Air Drops. You have to find a secluded space with open sky, wait for and then activate the drop. Takes about 15-20 seconds total. If there are 16 men per team this would be very very hard. It would take great communication and teamwork. Most casual gamers (license holders) will be frustrated by this.
this is really map dependent. With a TDM 25vs25 SERVER (heh) it is easily possible as your team spawns in a general area. Sure you will get killed a few times, but if the streak carries over (like in cod4) you can just keep trying. Even if it didn't, take for example broadcast. If your team is outside, just get to somewhere out of LOS of most of the other team, like behind the small sniper house in the 'SW corner'. There are occasional infiltrators but a high percentage of the time you would be fine.

If you are in the nade warehouse map then you are going to have a problem in the vast majority of the spawn spots (if that map even has open sky, I can't remember I tried to avoid it). For the most part though, not very very hard.
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11-04-2009 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bluef0x
none of what you are talking about has a ****ing thing to do with dedicated servers. please, just stop posting if you don't know what you are talking about.

IW spent more money making IWNET than just leaving dedicated servers in... a super easy decision would have been to spend less money on the PC development and securing the most purchases. Instead, they decided to spend money to build a system no one wants while pissing off the entire PC community.
I agree the PC users got screwed with this IWNET thing. Is it possible to not bring it up for a few days?
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11-04-2009 , 11:56 PM
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this is really map dependent. With a TDM 25vs25 SERVER (heh) it is easily possible as your team spawns in a general area. Sure you will get killed a few times, but if the streak carries over (like in cod4) you can just keep trying. Even if it didn't, take for example broadcast. If your team is outside, just get to somewhere out of LOS of most of the other team, like behind the small sniper house in the 'SW corner'. There are occasional infiltrators but a high percentage of the time you would be fine.

If you are in the nade warehouse map then you are going to have a problem in the vast majority of the spawn spots (if that map even has open sky, I can't remember I tried to avoid it). For the most part though, not very very hard.
The air drops are physical crates that are dropped. You have to hold a button and claim it, kind of like in headquarters. If you die before you get to claim it, its up for grabs. Both your teammates and enemies are eligible to claim it. (They are also able to claim it if they get there first, I had to knife one guy trying to steal last night) Its quite annoying watching your teammate get 10 kills with your helicopter. This doesn't disprove what you said, but it is more difficult than you thought. Right now I can't see any other reason to limit player size, other than to maintain fair leaderboards.

"the number of players we focused on when we were balancing map size, perks, classes, challenges, etc." - from the article, referring to 18.

I am neutral to this decision. I would like to think the people who made the game know what they are doing.
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11-05-2009 , 12:04 AM
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dont do drugs kids
I see irony ITT
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11-05-2009 , 12:30 AM
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This doesn't disprove what you said, but it is more difficult than you thought. Right now I can't see any other reason to limit player size, other than to maintain fair leaderboards.
this is map (and to some degree settings/player skill) dependent, at least for enemies claiming your drop, I will get into teammates in a sec. There aren't many infiltrators in again, for example broadcast, because from where they spawn they have to cross a few kill zones to get back to where you are. It does happen, but trust me you can find a safe spot most of the time. I'm pretty sure that for say a dedicated sever, where you could chose the map, even 25v25 TDM wouldn't render this perk useless.

As for teammates claiming your goodies? lol, that proves right there that the dev team is ******ed. If they don't patch that, then make that stubborn and ******ed. Do you think casual gamers like having their chopper stolen?

edit: forgot the leaderboard stuff -- is this really that important to 90% of people? generally curious here.

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11-05-2009 , 12:39 AM
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I agree the PC users got screwed with this IWNET thing. Is it possible to not bring it up for a few days?
IW just announced that 9v9 was the maximum. That is MW2 news. Is it possible that you don't bitch about PC news for once? You don't hear me crying when you can't figure out how to hook up your turtle beaches to your 360.
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11-05-2009 , 12:43 AM
Its not even that big of a deal, you can just disable the air drop killstreak before the match. You can only enable 3 different killstreaks at a time.

I must have dropped 30-40 crates so far, and only one guy tried to claim it before I did. After I killed him he said wtf, so I'm not 100% that that was his intention. Luckily we were playing hardcore and I was able to kill him.

I don't know how I feel about this just yet. I guess it would be a good idea to give the person who called it first dibs, by use of a timer. This may actually already be the case, I do not know. No one has taken mine in the first 30 seconds or so. I definitely lost about 5 or 6 though.
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11-05-2009 , 02:21 AM
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IW just announced that 9v9 was the maximum. That is MW2 news. Is it possible that you don't bitch about PC news for once? You don't hear me crying when you can't figure out how to hook up your turtle beaches to your 360.
I haven't posted 50 bitch and whine posts about mw2, ******. You must sit around and search the internet for anything mw2 related that you don't like so you can come post it in this thread to whine about. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and took you off my ignore list and that was a terrible idea. Peace.
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11-05-2009 , 02:31 AM
Friend of mine from IW said the launch trailer is up....so excited!!!!
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11-05-2009 , 02:36 AM
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Friend of mine from IW said the launch trailer is up....so excited!!!!
wow sickkkkkkk
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