NOPE thats a cashier making lots of cash on Spiffs

since you're a SnD player you probably won't get it no matter what we say...seems like there are basically two types of players, the ones who love SnD and don't really play anything else and people like me who find SnD mind-numbingly boring and prefer the constant action of FFA, TDM etc

all those things you mentioned (using cover, checking corners, grenades, camoflage) can and should be used to develop a successful run and gun style...you don't have to crouch walk with the sights up at all times to be an observant, stealthy player

You do realize that a camper by definition never has to check a corner right?

In a TDM game having 1 or 2 players on a team camping is somewhat irritating but not game ruining. If any more than that are camping, it basically makes running and gunning impossible. If both sides choose to camp, you end up with a stalemate and what fun is that.

i kinda hope they make sniping more difficult too. i havent read the thread so maybe this was discussed... but in COD4 half the time when i watch the kill cam after getting sniped the cross hairs are just in my area and they get the kill.


also, are they gonna have split-screen online multiplayer like halo does? not having it is a huge drawback imo.

The kill cam is inaccurate..

idk why camping pisses ppl off so much anyway. "OMG i died one time because i didnt see that guy laying in that corner, boohoo" respawn > grenade > problem solved

a good run n gunner will own a camper all day long

Also, its a realistic war game. If i stuck you in a small area with 8 guys with guns trying to kill you, i bet you'd be hiding in a corner too . . .

not true. a good camper beats a good run and gunner.


you camp in one spot, kill a guy, he gets mad, he comes back, but instead of being in the exact same spot, you just switch to a different corner, they blaze in shooting into your old spot or grenade your old spot. then they walk in, you shoot him


then you leave the building and camp the entrance to the building, so he runs by, you shoot him again.


i'm sure it's tilt inducing to kill someone 4 times in a row in FFA.


btw, I changed my clan tag to CAMP

figured it was only fair to announce my intentions

On PC sniping is very exact. If you miss, you miss.

you guys must not play a lot of snd. Yeah there is some camping but all those spots are known it's almost always best to reach certain strong points first so it's a mad dash at first. Most everyone that says snd sucks are people who are stupid enough to get naded in the same spots or killed in the same rooms. Throw a stun, shoot through a wall, bounce a nade on the sliver of a door or window sill.

lol wat?

learn how to prefire and stop crying about campers xD

he is basically saying to control the entry point of the nade to cause the most damage... at least that is how i read it

well a rage-rushing player wouldn't really fit my definition of "good run n gunner"

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but i agree with you. i just love doing that to ppl

yea it is, at least I only have a couple more days with it

he means bounce grenades off of door frames or window sills (usuall to get an incredibly acute angle)

Yes camping is aprt of the game, but in certain situations it really ruins games.\

for instance team death match. I am running around trying to get tons of kills to make up for all the ******s on my team. The problem is the whole entire other team is camping snipers and ppl sitting in the corner ready for the others trying to kill the camping snipers.

So my obvious choice is to run and gun and try to flush the campers otherwise the random idiots on my team are going to try and do so and obv fail miserably. We will lose either way and it's just stupid.

I however have no problems with camping snipers. That's what they are supposed to do.


Most of the time I am good at killing campers but certain maps vs good campers and the entire team is camping it's very irritating.

ive never understood peoples issues with campers. If peopole want to play defensively let em play defense. If you cant beat them then just quit the game or wait for them to come to you.

however there should be so many 2p2 clans on this game that we shouldnt have to worry about it amirite?

sitting and waiting isn't fun for me

for me, Crash is a great example of this. If the whole team gets in and around the 3 story, and they are good, the game is over. Its like Pickett's Charge from all 3 sides

for history ******s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickett%27s_Charge

you approach a door or window of a spot that likely has a camper. You don't need to expose yourself. Get an angle where you can see the very sliver or edge of the door, he can't see you, and you can't see him. Cross hairs at the edge of the door and you can bounce the nade in a spot that you can't see.

Also the physics of the game make it that if the camper is too close to a wall his elbow or foot will be sticking through the door. You can easily kill them that way or at least you know where they are. Little things like that. Also if you are on the 2 bar and bad end of 3 bars running and gunning has to be done more cautiously. The time it takes to go from sprinting to bringing your sights up is too long so stop and bring the sites up at possible intersections.

Also up your sensitivity. Slowly went up from 2 and 10 sensitivity now seems slow, wish they gave us more settings beyond 10.

yes but running and gunning gets boring after a while and campers are challenging to me... Play HQ if you want to force out the campers.

HQ is the biggest camping game outside of HTDM


seriously, just get to a spot where you know the team will run past to get to the HQ, and shoot them in the side. then move closer to their spawn, and repeat, then move back to the first spot.


everyone is so jacked up running to the HQ it is easy to shoot them on the way

but doesnt that kinda defeat the purpose of the gametype?
I dont really notice it that much in HQ tbh.