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09-02-2009 , 08:30 PM
some of the maps were pretty big in cod4 just not super open thus making them more balanced.
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09-02-2009 , 09:56 PM
do i PS3 it or PC it. That is the question.

PS3: + bigger screen + sofa + offline multiplayer
PC: +better controls (keyboard mouse ftw) + better online + probably better graphics

FML might just get both
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09-02-2009 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by f3nix35
do i PS3 it or PC it. That is the question.

PS3: + bigger screen + sofa + offline multiplayer
PC: +better controls (keyboard mouse ftw) + better online + probably better graphics

FML might just get both

none of the above, obv
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09-02-2009 , 10:14 PM
I dont have an xbox
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09-02-2009 , 10:22 PM
thehip = the new dire (without the thousand word posts)
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09-03-2009 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
you want the map to be so big that you can snipe but an ak can't hit you? wtf?

i guess to each his own, not my idea of a good time.
I just don't like for the map to be so small that you can't get enough separation to keep people from being able to check sniper spots with an assault rifle.

On COD4, on most all of the maps the only time a sniper is safe from being counter sniped with assault rifles and sub-machine guns is when he is in a sniper spot on the far side of map and the person he's shooting at is on the far other side. I prefer that range to be a little wider.

Bigger maps will also cut down on the ridiculous grenade spamming, and will make the map last longer before it gets old because there are more than 3 choke points.
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09-03-2009 , 10:33 AM
Wow. I show not be watching these videos. It can't be November soon enough!!
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09-03-2009 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by f3nix35
do i PS3 it or PC it. That is the question.

PS3: + bigger screen + sofa + offline multiplayer
PC: +better controls (keyboard mouse ftw) + better online + probably better graphics

FML might just get both
Console FPS = The kiddy game down the street.
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09-03-2009 , 10:55 AM
Yea, not even close, PC. Don't forget better servers.
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09-03-2009 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scotchnrocks
I just don't like for the map to be so small that you can't get enough separation to keep people from being able to check sniper spots with an assault rifle.

On COD4, on most all of the maps the only time a sniper is safe from being counter sniped with assault rifles and sub-machine guns is when he is in a sniper spot on the far side of map and the person he's shooting at is on the far other side. I prefer that range to be a little wider.

Bigger maps will also cut down on the ridiculous grenade spamming, and will make the map last longer before it gets old because there are more than 3 choke points.
I'd be happy if the bullet physics was tweaked so you didn't have people sniping from across the map with mini-uzis or 9mm pistols. Range limits where you aren't going to hit regardless of your aim point would be nice.
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09-04-2009 , 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I'd be happy if the bullet physics was tweaked so you didn't have people sniping from across the map with mini-uzis or 9mm pistols. Range limits where you aren't going to hit regardless of your aim point would be nice.
meh I think it's fine the way it is. CoD4's multiplayer is close to perfect
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09-04-2009 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
I'd be happy if the bullet physics was tweaked so you didn't have people sniping from across the map with mini-uzis or 9mm pistols. Range limits where you aren't going to hit regardless of your aim point would be nice.
i'm willing to put up with it this time around. it tilted me pretty hard when i got shot in the face from across the map with a pistol and i had an AK or something awesome. damn i wish i didn't trade away my cod4....oh well, nhl10 should keep me busy!
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09-05-2009 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by scotchnrocks
Bigger maps will also cut down on the ridiculous grenade spamming, and will make the map last longer before it gets old because there are more than 3 choke points.
besides what everyone else has said ... this is a great point.

basically all the COD4 maps have 2-4 choke points and a path that everyone runs nearly everytime. COD4 is made for run and gun smg spray, other than Dome I can play any map on WaW anyway I want to.
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09-05-2009 , 06:17 AM
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COD4 is made for run and gun smg spray
There's a reason that both camping and sniping are both very effective too...
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09-05-2009 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by blackize
There's a reason that both camping and sniping are both very effective too...
I was exaggerating obv.
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09-05-2009 , 12:52 PM
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I was exaggerating obv.
he was agreeing with you, as far as i could tell
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09-05-2009 , 12:58 PM
the cod4 maps are very balanced. the cod5 maps are big and nonsensical. often large parts of them seldom if ever used because they are just vastly inferior pieces of terrain.

in cod4 there are def better parts of maps than others but every piece of terrain serves a purpose.

cod4 maps are better... weapons are better(more balanced/better selection) it's just a much better game.
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09-05-2009 , 01:01 PM
Im kindof upset about no open beta,l but then again it makes the game even sweeter when it does come by

November, ship it!
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09-05-2009 , 01:06 PM
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the cod4 maps are very balanced. the cod5 maps are big and nonsensical. often large parts of them seldom if ever used because they are just vastly inferior pieces of terrain.
no. i could go on and on but i dont have the patience to type it up. we could talk about it on xbl sometime if you want.

anyway, maps like downpour suck dick because, as mentioned, there are only 4 or 5 routes you can take from the bottom spawn. choke points are pretty awful in some spots of this game.

curious which map in cod5 made you think to use the word nonsensical? i loooove open maps, but i can see why some ppl might not.
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09-05-2009 , 01:19 PM
lml,

if the maps are better on 5 then why do you play 4 so much more? are the guns just that much better?

The choke points and grenade lobbing can be irritating but if you know what your doing you can take advantage of it. esp in objective based games.

playing hq on some of those super huge maps is just so frustrating because you just get killed by campers over and over.


There are some really good maps on cod5 don't get me wrong, and i don't mind a big wide open map every once in a while.
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09-05-2009 , 01:20 PM
oh yeah and getting sniped out of your re-spawn is tons of fun
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09-05-2009 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
playing hq on some of those super huge maps is just so frustrating because you just get killed by campers over and over.
use the terrain. this is the primary difference in WaW you can use the terrain in many different ways, in COD4 you usually fighting against the terrain.
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09-05-2009 , 01:44 PM
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anyway, maps like downpour suck dick because, as mentioned, there are only 4 or 5 routes you can take from the bottom spawn. choke points are pretty awful in some spots of this game.

curious which map in cod5 made you think to use the word nonsensical? i loooove open maps, but i can see why some ppl might not.
/agree

there are too many spots in COD4 where thare is just no other way through a given area other than to just blast your way through it. With WaW you have choices to make, do you want to sneak / flank around, use misdirection, or shoot your way through etc etc.
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09-05-2009 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rubbrband
oh yeah and getting sniped out of your re-spawn is tons of fun
I agree that often the spawning is bad in WaW. In general COD4 is a much smoother running game but WaW has much more interesting terrain.. differnt strokes i guess.
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09-05-2009 , 03:28 PM
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lml,

if the maps are better on 5 then why do you play 4 so much more? are the guns just that much better?
probably because COD4 is better at just about everything except for the maps...the gameplay is smoother, on consoles the weapon balance is a lot better, go into any WaW game and you'll probably see 80% MP40s but for some reason they made the MP40 weaker on PC so it really isn't used that much and tanks suck

i do like the grenades a lot better in WaW, limiting them to 2 and decreasing their damage/radius was a good idea. the only time i see nade spam is in an objective based game like HQ and even then it isn't anywhere near as bad as COD4 nade spamming
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