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12-10-2011 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sc00by
Gotta get Ribery ahead of Nani. Hes the best midfielder on the game IMO. You need to win one more tourny to afford him, fits nice with Evra/Clichy + Nasri too.
I've already changed it dude lol, look above, also i can't get Ribery to fit unless i can get myself a Brasil CAM in the Bundesliga who is a strong link, which i can't :/
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12-10-2011 , 08:16 PM
Thanks for the advice guys, I def think you both have valid points. I think me playing almost exclusive FUT has been -EV for my overall ability, Ive had an awesome team from day 1 almost and just destroyed everyone. Ive gotten too reliant on the ability of my players and not my ability to out play the opposition.

I think my defending is really quite good, by that I mean that if I want to play tight, I can do it with very good results. I struggle as soon as I need to chase a game though, anyone decent can tear me open on the break.

Theres definitely some moves I noticed Benny and Juicy do vs me that I dont do myself, especially dribbling. I thought I was getting good at that, but Im not even close to some of you. I think L2+R2 is my new toy and I tend to do it too often in non optimal spots just because its my new toy.

I gotta try and improve, Im not happy with the level Im at, despite saying at the start that anything above 50% win rate would be fine. Im winning nearly 4:1 and Im not happy.
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12-10-2011 , 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sc00by
Thanks for the advice guys, I def think you both have valid points. I think me playing almost exclusive FUT has been -EV for my overall ability, Ive had an awesome team from day 1 almost and just destroyed everyone. Ive gotten too reliant on the ability of my players and not my ability to out play the opposition.

I think my defending is really quite good, by that I mean that if I want to play tight, I can do it with very good results. I struggle as soon as I need to chase a game though, anyone decent can tear me open on the break.

Theres definitely some moves I noticed Benny and Juicy do vs me that I dont do myself, especially dribbling. I thought I was getting good at that, but Im not even close to some of you. I think L2+R2 is my new toy and I tend to do it too often in non optimal spots just because its my new toy.

I gotta try and improve, Im not happy with the level Im at, despite saying at the start that anything above 50% win rate would be fine. Im winning nearly 4:1 and Im not happy.
Make a Bronze or Silver team that's not too beast but average and go play them tournaments, that will increase your skill as a player as the players won't do all the work you have to make them do it yourself if you get me
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12-10-2011 , 08:25 PM
Well, from the winning the coins now I've ended up with 2 Brazilian based gold teams with completely different sets of players. I bought Pato and Lucio, funnily enough my B team defence is comprised of the higher rated defence by far (Marcelo, Naldo, Lucio and Maicon) but they're still nowhere near as unbeatable as the A team.

My a team (for semi final and final)
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-u...#ghTiCjlSbcbTE
I sub clichy and walker on for LB and RB


My b team (for early stages, I'm gonna get neymar next instead of Ronaldinho)
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-u...#bwtg4f9vbcbTK
I sub Doumbia on for RS


not sure which keeper should be in what team right now.. Alves is an excellent shot stopper. With GK attribute card he's pretty much an Iker Casillas. so that's why he goes in A team.
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12-10-2011 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
I get your self limiting point, i have that problem which i really should sort, but as you can see in the post above my playstyle is alot different, i only ever use 1 striker so my goals come from the front 5 not just the lone man himself so i make sure my other players when presented with the opportunity can score for themselves.

If you want to optimise you CAM's for more passing orientated play would you not be better off with Diego & Ganso as them 2 are alot more creative than the 2 you have now and a much better passing stat
Yeah true, different playstyles. If I played 4-2-3-1 I would would probably have a left footed RAM and a left footed LAM.. make sure my crosses came from the left and shooting from the right. or vice versa. Depending on the gameflow I'd choose which side to attack through. Maybe you could try it. but I guess the RAm would just double up as a striker then


Nah, still need the pace to get into the crossing positions. Ganso and Diego are too slow to beat most fullbacks.
As long as they're using their strong foot the passing of the pacier GOLD players in UT is still pretty uber.
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12-10-2011 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicMurderBean
Well, from the winning the coins now I've ended up with 2 Brazilian based gold teams with completely different sets of players. I bought Pato and Lucio, funnily enough my B team defence is comprised of the higher rated defence by far (Marcelo, Naldo, Lucio and Maicon) but they're still nowhere near as unbeatable as the A team.

My a team (for semi final and final)
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-u...#ghTiCjlSbcbTE
I sub clichy and walker on for LB and RB


My b team (for early stages, I'm gonna get neymar next instead of Ronaldinho)
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/fifa-u...#bwtg4f9vbcbTK
I sub Doumbia on for RS


not sure which keeper should be in what team right now.. Alves is an excellent shot stopper. With GK attribute card he's pretty much an Iker Casillas. so that's why he goes in A team.
How comes you use 2 teams dude? Why not full strength throughout and then build a better full strength team?

And as far as playstyle goes i don't think i have ever crossed the ball i have manual crossing to make Rabona's easier lol, never ever cross, ever. Guess i should seems easy to score from em.
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12-10-2011 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
How comes you use 2 teams dude? Why not full strength throughout and then build a better full strength team?

And as far as playstyle goes i don't think i have ever crossed the ball i have manual crossing to make Rabona's easier lol, never ever cross, ever. Guess i should seems easy to score from em.
My A team is a full strength team man It is fkn beast. The only changes I'd make would be to have Thiago Silva for David Luiz and Dani Alves for RB.

They're the best players. The B team is still a good team.. I mean it's Dioumba and Pato upfront Then Carlos Eduardo and soon Neymar as cams.

This way I can keep both teams at full fitness all the time and also, I don't get bored playing the same players over and over. Although they're quite similar.


Oh yea crossing, especially when I'm up against 5-2-xxx formations which is very often in finals.
I just relentlessly attack through crosses cause the wingbacks leave that little space in the dangerzone to cross from. Once you get the first goal they open the defence up and you can play through em.

But I mean, I use crosses to keep my opponents guessing.. am I gonna cross it or am I gonna turn around and dribble inside? If I crossed it last time they tend to over compensate with defenders so I know this, do a quick stop and turn inside which gives me easy passing / shooting opportunity.

I guess it's like poker.. crossing = balancing your range.
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12-10-2011 , 10:12 PM
Yea balancing makes sense, and would probably make my game easier, i'll give it a shot then mixing in a few crosses
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12-10-2011 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Viva La Crayon
Yea balancing makes sense, and would probably make my game easier, i'll give it a shot then mixing in a few crosses
Yea it's such an easy way to score. you just need to know the sweet spots to cross from and when ur strikers are in a good spot to score..

Just make sure you set your crossing to semi-assisted. 3/4 power from wide will whip em in with power to the back post and if your striker connects, keeper usually can't do **** about it.. u dont even need tall players.. just pacey dudes with good heading, such as Welliton. (He's an absolute beast for scoring headers)

good thing to do is to do a close L2/LT back n forth dribble in the box vs ppl who hold contain.. then flick the right stick with a pacey cam, brings ball past cb and do a close range cross a few yards from 6yard. As you know anything you do after bridging increases power and accuracy (shots, crosses) they never expect u to dink it in the box.

It's kind of like a cutback cross. In fifa clubs, at the high level of teams.. i'd say 80% of the goals come from crosses. it's just so impossible to pass and dribble around people, but crossing is always dangerous n difficult to defend against. I love being able to mix it up more in h2h and UT.

You can do a lot with it.

When everything else fails,
Sweaty crosses for the win.
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12-11-2011 , 12:12 AM
That's the whole reason i've never used them i don't play sweaty, i hate it sooooooooooo much i can't bare to do it myself it annoys me so so so much when i play someone off the forum or someone i know for fun and they cutback me, so i don't do it because of that. And i used to consider crosses to be sweaty, but they aren't if you mix a few in a game, constantly spamming them yes, sweaty but 1 or 2 here should be fine with me tbh.

In 11 i used to be beast with the double tap square cross, knew all the sweet spots and you can score so many nice goals with it, diving headers, scorpion kicks, etc.

I'll put it to semi and try and give it a pop, see how it goes, i got Ibra in the middle who i'm sure should be pretty beasty for headers
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12-11-2011 , 12:23 AM
It's one thing to just run and do aimless crosses over and over... but if a man is in space and you've had the skill to get into a dangerous crossing position then it's on. It's ur opponents fault for not defending the cross or letting you get into a dangerous space in the first place. I say sweaty crosses sarcastically.

I just played a match where balancing pays off
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/105676218

I had just ran towards 6 yard box and dinked it towards striker. didn't connect cleanly but it looked like it was like a 50/50 chance it was a goal as soon as i dinked it. went out for a goalkick but rattled him.

Now he's just desperate to block the cross and overcommits.. I pretty much know he's gonna run and try to block it this time so.. now I can have fun with a geady flick instead :P

I set that goal up by crossing.
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12-11-2011 , 12:53 AM
i reallly like that ibra team. ughhh you guys are making me want to play fut so bad. out of curiosity, would anyone be interested in sharing or making a team? i'm willing to spend some money and grind tourneys and games. i'll probably just end up making my own i just don't want to commit that much time to or spend as much money as i have in past years. i also have ea season ticket so -20% for store purchases. before finishing writing this i've already started a bit on a team with a few premium gold packs but didn't bink anything. just think it could be fun to share and play a diff team. if it matters i'm 63-17d-13l w a half dozen disconnects and in d1 with 9 promotions 0 relegations. been in these threads for a couple years now and have done money leagues etc.
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12-11-2011 , 06:38 AM
Another one for my hall of shame :-D

http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/105709328

back to division 7
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12-11-2011 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicMurderBean
It's one thing to just run and do aimless crosses over and over... but if a man is in space and you've had the skill to get into a dangerous crossing position then it's on. It's ur opponents fault for not defending the cross or letting you get into a dangerous space in the first place. I say sweaty crosses sarcastically.

I just played a match where balancing pays off
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/105676218

I had just ran towards 6 yard box and dinked it towards striker. didn't connect cleanly but it looked like it was like a 50/50 chance it was a goal as soon as i dinked it. went out for a goalkick but rattled him.

Now he's just desperate to block the cross and overcommits.. I pretty much know he's gonna run and try to block it this time so.. now I can have fun with a geady flick instead :P

I set that goal up by crossing.
Yea i've started mixing them in and i don't aimlessly cross i still have a feel for it and i have found the sweet spot for Free Kicks, Longshots & Shots outside the box and it seems to be the same for crosses so i've already scored a few and it is sooooooo nice to balance your range, never thought of doing that >.>
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12-11-2011 , 12:23 PM
Yea I like to come inside a lot, I play Nasri and Kaka left side and Messi and Silva right side. As soon as I feel like villain is anticipating me coming inside then boom, right stick down the line, Im either in on goal or in a great spot to cross.

I think its more about hammering one direction first, get villain thinking thats whats coming, then just switch it up, that play creates so much space in behind.
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12-11-2011 , 12:58 PM
most people expect you to come inside from the get-go so you should start out by going outside(a little dummy with precision dribbling acting like you wanna cut-inside opens up the outside completely)
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12-11-2011 , 02:08 PM
remember to use protection when coming inside
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12-11-2011 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by cashy
most people expect you to come inside from the get-go so you should start out by going outside(a little dummy with precision dribbling acting like you wanna cut-inside opens up the outside completely)
I use that dribble but reverse. I go outside and then come inside. Seems to work well. The burst of speed between precision dribble and sprint kills them.
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12-11-2011 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by YouR_DooM
remember to use protection when coming inside
Hard to come inside with protection though surely?
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12-11-2011 , 05:23 PM
lol
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12-11-2011 , 05:31 PM
I've had a lot of trouble figuring out how to score from in close when I attack from the outside. It's a tough angle and I usually just shoot it straight at the keepers chest...any input?
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12-11-2011 , 05:58 PM
curler or tripple-tap cross
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12-11-2011 , 06:02 PM
http://www.ea.com/soccer/fifa-ultima...#iIzQVCQIbccwS

This is slowly turning into Man City. It's nothing great and I probably overpaid for some stuff. I'm tempted to add either IF Johnson (CAM) or Nasri (CF) next. I think if I did Nasri, I could go with Benzema at ST and still have good chem.
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12-11-2011 , 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MediaPA
http://www.ea.com/soccer/fifa-ultima...#iIzQVCQIbccwS

This is slowly turning into Man City. It's nothing great and I probably overpaid for some stuff. I'm tempted to add either IF Johnson (CAM) or Nasri (CF) next. I think if I did Nasri, I could go with Benzema at ST and still have good chem.
IF Johnson would work better as a CF IMO Milner for Nasri works
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12-11-2011 , 08:20 PM
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/videos/ugc/105797449

Kinda goals we can score in clubs

Rory Delappin that ****.

maybe i should sign him in UT for the lols first round games and bomb headers in like this.
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