DOTA 2 - Page 541 - Video Games - Video Game Systems Forum

DS has been north of 80% p/b for a while now, and it's not because he's a counter to any other popular picks. Seems to me like it would have been a good move to nerf him harder (and maybe clock a little bit too) to even out the offlaner pool a bit.

Quote

09-24-2015 , 11:25 PM

#13504

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

79% in august, 43% in july, 38% in june

Quote

09-25-2015 , 12:06 AM

#13505

PoppaTMan

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,862

ALRIGHT KIRBY LET'S NOT GET BOGGED DOWN IN MINUTIA HERE

Quote

09-25-2015 , 12:11 AM

#13506

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

your face is minutia

bruh

Quote

09-25-2015 , 12:20 AM

#13507

Thamel18

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,175

Storm seems unpickable in pro games with the remnant, bottle, AND bloodstone changes. Seems like we're going to see a lot of TA/WR/QoP/Viper, since they were hit the least or not at all relative to other current mid picks. Most excited about techies being given a big hit, most interested in PA's dagger proccing on hit effects (Bashing with dagger? good god, not to mention Skadi/Satanic if she ever picked it up).

Quote

09-25-2015 , 12:49 AM

#13508

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

yeah healing and bashing from daggers seem to make her really strong especially since you already bought those items

Quote

09-25-2015 , 12:52 AM

#13509

PoppaTMan

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,862

Any interest in running a hero draft for the upcoming major? Like over the duration of the qualifiers and the event itself, you'd get points for each pick/ban one of your heroes received. Could have it a week or two before qualifiers so whatever mini-balance patches are coming could get sorted out beforehand.

Quote

09-25-2015 , 01:02 AM

#13510

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

sure

Quote

09-25-2015 , 01:22 AM

#13511

Thamel18

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,175

Also, RIP Huskar

Quote

09-25-2015 , 01:26 AM

#13512

Fallen Hero

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21,439

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thamel18

lesh's laning phase got a pretty big nerf but his late game potential is still there, I see him still being picked a fair amount

Quote

09-25-2015 , 08:03 AM

#13513

IPlayDonkaments

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,184

I think Lina also hasn't been nerfed enough, 100dmg on her ult and 40dmg on LSA is not enough when she can still solo anyone at lvl 11, maybe you have finish boots now though.

Quote

09-25-2015 , 08:30 AM

#13514

Ambush

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,389

Eul's Scepter of Divinity
Cyclone cast range reduced from 700 to 575

That also hurts her chances to just walk up and solo someone a bit (and the bottle, bloodstone, phase boots changes but those are even more general I guess)

Quote

09-25-2015 , 09:24 AM

#13515

Thamel18

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,175

Also Undying solo offlane seems like garbage with the tombstone change. Seems like he's stuck as a duo offlaner or support now.

Quote

09-25-2015 , 01:34 PM

#13516

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

at least tombstones a lot stronger lategame now

Quote

09-25-2015 , 06:32 PM

#13517

Regret$

burnt out

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

I'm fapping so hard right noa

Quote

09-25-2015 , 06:45 PM

#13518

Regret$

burnt out

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

Weird **** from the wiki
'Cleave damage is based on Phantom Assassin's attack damage and is applied right infront of her, not at the dagger target.'

Quote

09-25-2015 , 06:51 PM

#13519

Fallen Hero

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 21,439

Quote:

Originally Posted by Regret$

Weird **** from the wiki
'Cleave damage is based on Phantom Assassin's attack damage and is applied right infront of her, not at the dagger target.'

yeah, that's how cleave works for ranged heroes in AD too.

Quote

09-25-2015 , 07:25 PM

#13520

Kirbynator

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 52,004

id wager theyll fix that

Quote

09-25-2015 , 07:45 PM

#13521

Regret$

burnt out

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

Confirmed bashes, holy ability draft

Orb shield tango is pretty decent start imo. Last hit is turrible but orb dagger is as good as a stun at rune/lane. Offlane fwiw. I make vendor mistake (fu powertreads) that cost 700 early and team steal all my kills. Was 2/2/9 at some point and mjol was v late. Obv said stealers throw. Had a good witchdoctor so sustain was no issue. I think prob morbid -> basher is the build tho. I'll try that one next.

Last edited by Regret$; 09-25-2015 at 07:53 PM.

Quote

09-25-2015 , 08:56 PM

#13522

Regret$

burnt out

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

Quote:

Originally Posted by crappit/r/dota2

OOV slow via dagger is considered a melee strike meaning it adds the full 12% slow. 50%+12%=62% slow. Thats enough to slow even bugatti seeker to a manageable pace with a 2 second downtime.
Additive slow match confirmed by /u/LastCenturion
OOV is basically a 275 gold investment that makes rod of atos look ****ty in comparasion to your dagger.

link. Seems also if you crit with cleave it uses your melee damage x crit and is pure damage lmao. Gonna ride this pa/riki patch til the breaks fall off.