No guarantee that this is accurate. This was all I could find.

in every sport people ridiculizing bookies lines are always the same people that the bookies want to bet.

Its no coincidence, ive watched every game of every major tournaments this year and even I dont think i have much of an edge on sportsbetting sites.

Maybe the real line was closer to 45% than 50%.

It certainly wasnt lower than at least 40%. Half the teams were near drawing dead. Teams like navi and mvp.

And yes, CDEC was one of those teams that probably didnt even have 2% of winning this tournament.

Which is what makes this incredible and that nobody in their right mind gave them a shot EVEN at only top 3.

This is pretty amazing and unheard of.


ps: those odds were before cdec and mvp phoenix qualified in the wildcard so cant take cdec/phoenix/vega/archon odds

If you want an example of power rankings before the tournament started this one is pretty good

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/ti5/...rnational-2015

Keep in mind that people were pretty mad that newbee were invited (only cause they were last years champion), and cdec are barely above them). Nobody thought anyone bottom 4 had ANY shot at winning this. Ehome were actually respected.

42.5-1

checkout Na'Vi between TI2 and TI3, that's an insane resumé. But yeah, agreed in terms of public perception influencing lines in tiny markets, which is my entire point.

I'm not ridiculing the bookies, I said esports betting markets are generally a joke, which they are, because they're tiny markets with virtually no intelligent money, so the bookies take advantage.

i'd be interested in seeing

a) how much you have to bet on a dota2 game to move a line aggressively
b) how much you have to bet on a dota2 futures price to move it
c) what kind of people are getting hired to set the opening dota2 lines

IMO if you want EG to be in the Grand finals, you should be cheering for VG in this game. EG have had VG by the balls for quite a long time. LGD might be a tougher match-up for EG.

I wish I could bet on pinnacle but the bloody government has banned online betting in my country.

I think I recall the max bet during the TI2 or TI4 times to be a $100. Not sure whether they still have a cap now.

lol had I known this I wouldn't have bothered with any other argument

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ VG, draft a surprise pick please

im surprised that the cap for TI5 pinny betting is only $100, its not like you're going to get corrupt players when the prizes are this huge

either that or they just dont have enough faith in their bookmakers

like i noticed during the tournament that G2 lines wouldn't move that hard even after G1 results (maybe not surprising?)... and games were available to bet on even as the draft was going (I was spectating the market being in the USA so maybe this part ends up not being correct)

I remember looking at the odds on pinnacle and telling myself I'd be a millionaire. Then I tried to place a bet and found out that the cap was a $100 and I thought wtf is this nonsense.

Still made a profit though!

The cap was either for TI2 or TI4 (honestly can't remember). I don't know what it is now as I can't even access the website. I wouldn't be surprised if they increased the cap significantly.

you can immediately re-bet for the maximum on pinnacle, but the lines will be altered due to your previous bet

no clue what the max bet was

LMAO THAT SIGN


WTF 10 MERLINIS

think the key to beating CDEC will be running a hero that alters the normal flow of a game like techies/brood/wisp or maybe some kind of global strat like spectre+AA

go VG? i guess o.O

rip techies first phase ban


Also I think EG had the perfect draft and perfect game in game 1.

Then that song+requiem blunder happened, with no buyback, lol. Brutal.

Why do teams keep picking razor when his winrate is poopy? VG's draft doesn't look good here.

yeah, I actually agree with the G1 draft

except the song should probably have been used purely for disengage rather than setup

suddenly 5v5 in dire jungle, wtf

THEY CAME FROM....

BEHIND!

ICEX3 MLG NOSCOPE

TI5 has delivered insane games over and over again. Incredible!

yeah for reals

like 80% of the games were close and good, which is insane.

I remember when watching dota was basically 3 games out of 4 stomps one way, with a lot of boring heroes among them.

He was the champ at this when he used to play invoker. He did a sick one vs VP in the last TI.

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Double sentries at the same spot provide double the vision.

I still don't like QOP carries though

wow vg

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